Peter Holmes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:33 am
VA, if the penny finally drops for you, and you realise there are no moral facts, will you then think it's morally okay for you or some morally imbecilic wanker to go out and shoot people in the face? Will you feel unable to morally judge the Dick for shooting you in the face?
As per the Principles of Normal Distribution, there will be a percentile of outliers, the 1% or up to 5-10% who will and potentially commit the most odious repulsive immoral acts.
When these outliers commit the most hideous, abhorrent immoral acts, they will be repugnant to the average moral inclined person regardless of whether there are moral fact or not.
I insist there are moral facts as I have justified them succinctly over various posts and threads.
It is because, I understand the existence of moral facts, I can use them as a standard to strive for improvement to the inherent standards, where all humans should be doing the same.
At present it is too late for improvements for the current generations, but moral facts provide improvements for future generations if the right direction and steps are taken.
Note the advantage of Moral Realism, i.e. there are moral facts which are truth-apt;
Moral realism allows the ordinary rules of logic (modus ponens, etc.) to be applied straightforwardly to moral statements. We can say that a moral belief is false or unjustified or contradictory in the same way we would about a factual belief. This is a problem for expressivism, as shown by the Frege–Geach problem.
Another advantage of moral realism is its capacity to resolve moral disagreements: if two moral beliefs contradict one another, realism says that they cannot both be right, and therefore everyone involved ought to be seeking out the right answer to resolve the disagreement. Contrary theories of meta-ethics have trouble even formulating the statement "this moral belief is wrong," and so they cannot resolve disagreements in this way.
In your case with Moral Subjectivism - there are no moral facts but merely subjective judgments - you and your likes will be indifferent to any moral improvements and progress and accept the status quo. Then you can only complain when someone shoot you in the face, especially in the present when the police dept is defunded thus no officer to investigate the shooter.