Gary Childress wrote:If the pain is in your brain, then it would be more akin to a "headache" and not a "toeache", wouldn't it?
No, of course not.
The phenomenal experience of pain is a brain state, but the brain state is a report of where you're injured. That's the whole reason it evolved--it gives you a report of injuries in progress and injuries that have occurred but that are still healing throughout your body. That doesn't imply that the phenomenal pain experience is located in the injured area. It's clearly located--we know this from empirical evidence, too--in one's brain.
The way you are tracking your mind in the "physical" world is entirely through inference from a third person perspective . . . Why is it infered to be in the brain but not experienced to be in the brain?
But the pain experience
, or phenomenal pain
IS experienced to be in my brain, by me at least. Again, you're conflating the report of injury with what is reporting the injury. They do not experientially seem to be the same thing to me. If I drop something on my foot, experientially, it's the case that "Ow that hurts" is in my head, but what got hurt is not. And having to explain this seems, to me, to be like having to explain something to a five-year-old . . . who is maybe kind of slow.
Because your "mind" is not "physical" in nature.
Of course it is, and that's exacerbated by the fact that the very idea of a nonphysical existent is incoherent
It cannot be located in space/time and cannot be perceived by anyone but you.
On your view your mind is perceived by you? What the fnck?
In fact when it comes down to it most of the world is not "physical".
Atoms consist of far more "empty space" than anything else.
They don't "consist of" empty space. "Empty space" isn't some sort of container existent in the first place, anyway. It's just that there's a lot of space--that is, relational distance, between the matter that functions in conjunction as an atom.
"Physical" is ultimately an illusion.
I can see now why you'd be prone to not feeling that religious views are completely absurd.
A "brain" is an illusion.
Great, so it's turning out that you're probably a sock account for that Dontaskme moron.
If someone transplanted your brain in another body, "you" would probably "inhabit" that other body, right?
Yes. You, in the sense of your consciousness, your conscious experience, etc. would be in another body (minus your brain of course, which would be the same).
Now suppose someone only transplanted part of your brain into that other body. Which part of the brain would need to be transplanted in order for "you" to inhabit that other body?
All of it. Mental phenomena obtain via neurons, synapses, etc. that are spread throughout the entire brain working in conjunction.
Why? Because "you" are not physical in nature
No. It's because it's a first-person phenomenon.
Alright, you're turning out to be one of those persons who ignores a lot of stuff that was already said, stuff that was asked, points that were brought up, etc., and who will keep expanding responses into more and more topics, so next time around, I'm probably going to the one-point-at-a-time format with you, which I'm just telling you so you know. You can type as much as you want, of course, but I'll only respond to one point at a time until it seems there's some possibility of you moving away from the telemarketer approach.