Peter Holmes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:30 pm
My questions were really aimed at VA's misunderstanding of quantum mechanics: if humans create or invent the moon (reality), then we also create or invent ourselves - so that then reality is a creation of a creation. I haven't come across a quantum interpretation with that conclusion - but is there one?
Strawman again!
Who is talking about 'create' or invent the moon [reality].
The proper term is "emergence" from the convergence of things within the human self.
If the Nobel Prize for Physics supports the idea 'the moon does not exists if no one is cognizing it' that counters even Einstein, then that means you are stupid to counter it.
Agreed. Of course. VA has no idea, so all we get is an incantation of banalities about scientific knowledge - and the 'morality FSK' rabbit out of the hat that's just - there. The simple logical fact that non-moral premises (such as scientific ones) can't entail moral conclusions is beyond VA's comprehension.
Again your are very ignorant and stuck with a bankrupt ideology that is against the concept of morality.
I have already stated, I agree any subjective feelings, thoughts or belief of morality by an individual or group cannot be fact, especially when without grounding to scientific facts and a credible moral FSK
In addition any claims of "objectively moral facts" from a God or based on Platonic ideals are not facts.
What I have claimed as objective moral facts has nothing to do with the above.
What I claimed as objective moral facts are grounded on scientific facts and considered within a credible moral FSK.
The simple logical fact that non-moral premises (such as scientific ones) can't entail moral conclusions is beyond VA's comprehension.
You are the one with a very think skull with little matter inside.
You are really ignorant;
I have already given you examples of how scientific facts supports non-scientific facts via their specific FSKs.
For example,
Physics-scientific facts enable astronomical facts via an astronomy FSK.
Biology-scientific facts enable sexual facts via an sex-related-FSK.
Biology-scientific facts enable agricultural facts via an agricultural-FSK.
Chemistry-scientific facts enable plastic facts via a plastic-FSK.
Chemistry-scientific facts enable perfume facts via a perfume-FSK.
Bio-Chemistry facts enable pharmaceutical facts via an pharmacy FSK.
Bio-Chemistry facts enable medical facts via a medical FSK.
as so on .......
So, why can't
Biology-scientific facts enable moral facts via a moral FSK?
As I had stated your views are very narrow, shallow and stuck within a dogmatic ideology that are similar [not exactly] to those of the Logical Positivists and hardcore Analytics philosophers of the present.
The sight of the term 'objective moral fact' makes you go berserk.
In the meantime there is a potential of greater evils towards the future; this warrant critical attention to expedite moral progress to facilitate the well-being, welfare and flourishing of humanity which can only be expedited when grounded on objective moral facts.