WHAT WOULD KANT SAY ABOUT ABORTION ?

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Re: WHAT WOULD KANT SAY ABOUT ABORTION ?

Post by Gary Childress » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:59 am

It seems like this thread has mostly gone its course. We've gone from Kant and the Categorical Imperative to "piccaninnies" (to quote Dachshund), Thomas Jefferson and white supremacy. Is there anything left to discuss regarding abortion?

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Re: WHAT WOULD KANT SAY ABOUT ABORTION ?

Post by uwot » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:48 pm

Dachshund wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:34 pm
This is just a quick and dirty introduction to the relevant bioscience. The point they( the bioscients specialising in this field) would make is that when an abortionist destroys, say, a one - week - old embryo he is indeed destroying a human life; and this is a demonstrable scientific fact.
Fair enough. Why then does a fertilised human egg have the right to impose itself on a fully formed human being for the next couple of decades?

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Re: WHAT WOULD KANT SAY ABOUT ABORTION ?

Post by DPMartin » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:52 pm

Dachshund wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:15 pm
DPMartin wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:31 pm
Dachshund wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:06 pm


(1): If you don't understand how abortion is a moral issue, you shouldn't be wasting your time on a philosophy forum. Best stick to something more commensurate with your IQ like Batman Comics or such like.

(2): Just because Kant is dead, it doesn't mean that his ethical theory is of no value in helping us think more rationally about human morality in 2019. (Quite the opposite, in fact). It's like saying that because Shakespeare is long dead, we shouldn't bother to use the texts of his dramas and poetry to help us justify/evaluate what is, or is not, exemplary use of the English language.

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nope, the law is the set of morals agreed on, the struggle (in this case) is what that law should be, or shouldn't be, in accordance to the agreed method of establishing law. where have you been, listing to TV and religious rhetoric and believing what they tell you?


"IT IS NEVER PERMISSIBLE TO KILL AN INNOCENT HUMAN BEING."


Modern science argues, as I say, that the embryos and foetuses carried by pregnant women are living human beings. The leaders of the Pro-Choice movement who disagree , are not expert scientists, rather, they are a motley crew of leftist political activists, many of whom are fanatical feminists. Given feminism is a failed movement, and this is because most leaders of the feminist movement were/are utter morons, I am inclined to trust the conclusion of the scientists, as opposed to the likes of Gloria Steinem and Andrea Dworkin (!! :shock: :shock: ).


The last point is that the relevant Natural Law in this case: "IT IS NEVER PERMISSIBLE TO KILL AN INNOCENT HUMAN BEING" was not enacted by the Justices presiding in Roe vs Wade in 1973, it was determined and ordained by a much higher authority - GOD


And guess what "DP"? I' can assure you that GOD TRUMPS "Roe vs Wade" - BIG TIME!


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Dachshund
its a theory the thoughts of men, nothing natural about that.

also, to show how shallow this info is, if it be unnatural to kill the innocent then why do animals kill the innocent. a male lion taking over a pride has been known to kill the young of the previous male. its natural for predators to eat the young of prey while they are still alive. your theory isn't true in all cases therefore not true. there are no morals applied here because there is no law, no agreement. just power to do.

there is no morals without agreement between living entities that are aware of each other and the agreement to be in agreement. man like any other beast is intricacy a beast. being able to come into agreement with each other and hold one another to that agreement is the difference.

hence morals.


and yes it is permeable to kill innocent human beings, just what do you think war is?

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Re: WHAT WOULD KANT SAY ABOUT ABORTION ?

Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:49 pm

uwot wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:48 pm
Dachshund wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:34 pm
This is just a quick and dirty introduction to the relevant bioscience. The point they( the bioscients specialising in this field) would make is that when an abortionist destroys, say, a one - week - old embryo he is indeed destroying a human life; and this is a demonstrable scientific fact.
Fair enough. Why then does a fertilised human egg have the right to impose itself on a fully formed human being for the next couple of decades?
Because kristians like dachshund want women to to suffer for their 'sinful ways'. I'm sure he doesn't seriously expect us to believe he actually cares about the week-old emybryos of complete strangers.

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Re: WHAT WOULD KANT SAY ABOUT ABORTION ?

Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:14 am

uwot wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:48 pm
Dachshund wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:34 pm
This is just a quick and dirty introduction to the relevant bioscience. The point they( the bioscients specialising in this field) would make is that when an abortionist destroys, say, a one - week - old embryo he is indeed destroying a human life; and this is a demonstrable scientific fact.
Fair enough. Why then does a fertilised human egg have the right to impose itself on a fully formed human being for the next couple of decades?
A wonderful question.

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Re: WHAT WOULD KANT SAY ABOUT ABORTION ?

Post by Arising_uk » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:46 pm

Dachshund wrote:...
Dachshund - WOOF, WOOF !!
Dear oh dear I must be getting old. So what brought you back to the forum yet again pooch, took you a while to find a kennel with a new IP address?

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Re: WHAT WOULD KANT SAY ABOUT ABORTION ?

Post by Dachshund » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:19 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:49 pm
uwot wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:48 pm
Dachshund wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:34 pm
This is just a quick and dirty introduction to the relevant bioscience. The point they( the bioscients specialising in this field) would make is that when an abortionist destroys, say, a one - week - old embryo he is indeed destroying a human life; and this is a demonstrable scientific fact.
Fair enough. Why then does a fertilised human egg have the right to impose itself on a fully formed human being for the next couple of decades?
Because kristians like dachshund want women to to suffer for their 'sinful ways'. I'm sure he doesn't seriously expect us to believe he actually cares about the week-old emybryos of complete strangers.
I rather be a Kristian than a Kiwi Kunt.

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Re: WHAT WOULD KANT SAY ABOUT ABORTION ?

Post by Dachshund » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:28 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:14 am
uwot wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:48 pm
Dachshund wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:34 pm
This is just a quick and dirty introduction to the relevant bioscience. The point they( the bioscients specialising in this field) would make is that when an abortionist destroys, say, a one - week - old embryo he is indeed destroying a human life; and this is a demonstrable scientific fact.
Fair enough. Why then does a fertilised human egg have the right to impose itself on a fully formed human being for the next couple of decades?
A wonderful question.
An immature lining human being and a more mature human being (e.g.) are both living examples of of homo sapiens. Parents are legally obliged to properly care for and not harm (or kill) their children. A "fertilized embryo" is an immature living human being, the same legal duty of care ought apply it him/her as applies to a new-born infant until it is 18 years old (i.e. legally an adult)

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Re: WHAT WOULD KANT SAY ABOUT ABORTION ?

Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:48 am

Dachshund wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:28 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:14 am
uwot wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:48 pm
Fair enough. Why then does a fertilised human egg have the right to impose itself on a fully formed human being for the next couple of decades?
A wonderful question.
An immature lining human being and a more mature human being (e.g.) are both living examples of of homo sapiens. Parents are legally obliged to properly care for and not harm (or kill) their children. A "fertilized embryo" is an immature living human being, the same legal duty of care ought apply it him/her as applies to a new-born infant until it is 18 years old (i.e. legally an adult)

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Dachshund
A six week old lentil is not a child you moron. And why didn't you answer imp's question.
You have already shown that you don't have a clue what safe, legal abortion involves for the vast majority of women who have it.

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Re: WHAT WOULD KANT SAY ABOUT ABORTION ?

Post by Dachshund » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:45 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:48 am
Dachshund wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:28 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:14 am


A wonderful question.
An immature lining human being and a more mature human being (e.g.) are both living examples of of homo sapiens. Parents are legally obliged to properly care for and not harm (or kill) their children. A "fertilized embryo" is an immature living human being, the same legal duty of care ought apply it him/her as applies to a new-born infant until it is 18 years old (i.e. legally an adult)

Regards

Dachshund
A six week old lentil is not a child you moron. And why didn't you answer imp's question.
You have already shown that you don't have a clue what safe, legal abortion involves for the vast majority of women who have it.
What would a dumb, KIWI bitch like you know? Most of the white males in Nisland are too busy shagging sheep for human abortion to be an issue for white females there. And the big, fat Wahinis don't have an issue with unwanted pregnancy because they're all so butt-ugly even the Mongrol Mob wouldn't be game to "do the dirty" with any of them :shock: :shock: :D :D

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Re: WHAT WOULD KANT SAY ABOUT ABORTION ?

Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:15 am

Dachshund wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:45 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:48 am
Dachshund wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:28 am


An immature lining human being and a more mature human being (e.g.) are both living examples of of homo sapiens. Parents are legally obliged to properly care for and not harm (or kill) their children. A "fertilized embryo" is an immature living human being, the same legal duty of care ought apply it him/her as applies to a new-born infant until it is 18 years old (i.e. legally an adult)

Regards

Dachshund
A six week old lentil is not a child you moron. And why didn't you answer imp's question.
You have already shown that you don't have a clue what safe, legal abortion involves for the vast majority of women who have it.
What would a dumb, KIWI bitch like you know? Most of the white males in Nisland are too busy shagging sheep for human abortion to be an issue for white females there. And the big, fat Wahinis don't have an issue with unwanted pregnancy because they're all so butt-ugly even the Mongrol Mob wouldn't be game to "do the dirty" with any of them :shock: :shock: :D :D

Regards

Dachshund
Typical feral Aussie cocksucker. No surprises there :roll:

ps. Your surname isn't Milat by any chance?

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Re: WHAT WOULD KANT SAY ABOUT ABORTION ?

Post by Dachshund » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:53 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:15 am
Dachshund wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:45 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:48 am


A six week old lentil is not a child you moron. And why didn't you answer imp's question.
You have already shown that you don't have a clue what safe, legal abortion involves for the vast majority of women who have it.
What would a dumb, KIWI bitch like you know? Most of the white males in Nisland are too busy shagging sheep for human abortion to be an issue for white females there. And the big, fat Wahinis don't have an issue with unwanted pregnancy because they're all so butt-ugly even the Mongrol Mob wouldn't be game to "do the dirty" with any of them :shock: :shock: :D :D

Regards

Dachshund
Typical feral Aussie cocksucker. No surprises there :roll:

ps. Your surname isn't Milat by any chance?
Ivan Milat was an uneducated, brain dead, psychopath - pure white trash of the very lowest order. He should have been given the death penalty (but, unfortunately, due to a fusillade of Leftist political campaigns during the 1960's, it was abolished in Australia in 1967). I , FYI, am totally unlike Milat in that am I a respectable, law-abiding, gentleman, retired professional and proud member of the British Conservative Party since the early 1990's;. Moreover, I am unlike YOU in that I am not a vulgar , foul-mouthed, ill-mannered "urchin" living in a 3rd world economy in a country over-run by primitive savages !

So you can stick that in your pipe and smoke it, darling!

Dachshund

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Re: WHAT WOULD KANT SAY ABOUT ABORTION ?

Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:56 am

Dachshund wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:53 am


Ivan Milat was an uneducated, brain dead, psychopath - pure white trash of the very lowest order.
Dachshund
Exactly.

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Re: WHAT WOULD KANT SAY ABOUT ABORTION ?

Post by Dachshund » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:11 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:56 am
Dachshund wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:53 am


Ivan Milat was an uneducated, brain dead, psychopath - pure white trash of the very lowest order.
Dachshund
Exactly.
I take a very dim view of bad-mannered women in general, and in particular when they hurling revolting insults/lies at my good, self-respecting self. If you continue to antagonise me, I tell you , I will materialise through your computer screen in an instant and give you the most ferocious birching you could ever image. I am sure that would help to whip some civility, good manners and sorely needed social graces into your skanky butt. (You vile, little pleb !)

You have been warned.

Dachshund

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