popeye1945 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:34 am
Age wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 9:28 am
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:36 am
Hi Age,
I take it god told you this, right?
If that is what you 'take', then that is what you 'take'. Now, what is the difference between 'god' and 'God', to you?
And, what do you mean by, "told you this"? If answered Honestly, then I will be able to answer your CLARIFYING question here.
What's the difference between god and God, a capital letter? Well seeing that there is no morality in nature, and the life lives upon life it would seem god is an absent landlord. As Shakespeare said, "There is no such thing as right or wrong, only thinking makes it so."
So, there is absolutely nothing bad or wrong in nature about hurting and harming "others", including children, and it is thinking only, which makes abusing children and new born babies wrong or bad to you, correct?
Sounds like, to 'you', and "shakespeare", as long as one is NOT 'thinking' AT ALL then there is absolutely NOTHING AT ALL 'good' or 'bad' no matter what 'you' or "shakespeare" are doing to "another".
Are there NO 'emotions' AT ALL within 'you' or "shakespeare", which guides 'you' two in some way to what is wrong and bad to do in life? For example, if there was NO 'thinking' going on AT ALL in 'that body' and 'you' were hitting a two month old human baby over the head with a hammer until blood was flowing out of that body, then would there REALLY be NO 'emotion' or 'internal feeling' AT ALL within that body that 'says' doing 'this' is WRONG?
Your Honesty here, like ALWAYS, would be VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:34 am
So, I am going by what brilliant scholars have said, and the knowledge I obtain from observing nature. So. what I am asking is, what is you source of knowledge, that apparently leaves you in little doubt.
I do NOT necessarily go by what OTHER human beings have said, (and do NOT judge 'some' as being better or worse than "others"), but, just like you, and EVERY one else, my source of knowledge is obtained from observing, and experiencing, Nature.
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:34 am
You obviously do not believe humanity is the source of morality, is the source, the supernatural?
You OBVIOUSLY have NOT read where I have PREVIOUSLY WRITTEN,
I neither BELIEVE nor DISBELIEVE ANY thing. If you did, then you would REALIZE that I do NOT 'believe' ANY thing AND I do NOT 'disbelieve' ANY thing.
Also, the SOURCE of 'morality' is WITHIN human beings. In the form of 'thinking' AND 'emotions'. Well to me anyway.
Human beings do NOT behave NOR misbehave on 'thinking' ALONE. Their behavior is based on 'emotions' AS WELL. Therefore, 'morality' is based on 'thoughts' AND 'internal feelings'. And, HOW how to DISCOVER the DIFFERENCE between 'objective morality' AND 'subjective morality' I have ALREADY discussed in another thread. If ANY one is INTERESTED.
So, YOUR ASSUMPTION here is VERY, VERY Wrong. Which makes your final question absolutely ABSURD. Well to me anyway.