Corporate cuts turned deadly -- is it 'just business' and not personal?

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Corporate cuts turned deadly -- is it 'just business' and not personal?

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What I admire most about some non-Western cultures is their general belief in and practise of not placing their aged family members in long-term care homes.

As a result, there's no chance they will be caught in thus left vulnerable by cost-cutting measures taken by some care-home business owners to maximize profit.

Here in Canada, for-profit care-home neglect was present before Covid-19; however, we didn't fully comprehend the degree until the pandemic really hit, as we horrifically discovered with the CHSLD Résidence Herron in Dorval, Quebec, about 10 months ago.

Western business mentality and, by extension, collective society, allowed the well-being of our oldest family members to be decided by corporate profit-margin measures. And our governments mostly dared not intervene, perhaps because they feared being labelled as anti-business in our avidly capitalist culture.

But, as clearly evidenced by the many needless care-home resident Covid-19 deaths, big business does not always know or practice what's best for its consumers.

Morally and ethically, the profit buck has to stop with the health and lives of human beings, especially those who have little or no voice.
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As if the elderly don't get mistreated by their own families as well :roll:

Being old sucks. There's no way around that apart from the obvious...
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FrankGSterleJr wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:14 am Morally and ethically, the profit buck has to stop with the health and lives of human beings, especially those who have little or no voice.
In reality businesses are driven by money so that their profits will benefit their stockholders and employees. Perhaps it’s lawsuits for negligence and malpractice, intentional or not, knowingly or not, that will move facilities to improve their care.
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FrankGSterleJr wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:14 am What I admire most about some non-Western cultures is their general belief in and practise of not placing their aged family members in long-term care homes.

As a result, there's no chance they will be caught in thus left vulnerable by cost-cutting measures taken by some care-home business owners to maximize profit.

Here in Canada, for-profit care-home neglect was present before Covid-19; however, we didn't fully comprehend the degree until the pandemic really hit, as we horrifically discovered with the CHSLD Résidence Herron in Dorval, Quebec, about 10 months ago.

Western business mentality and, by extension, collective society, allowed the well-being of our oldest family members to be decided by corporate profit-margin measures. And our governments mostly dared not intervene, perhaps because they feared being labelled as anti-business in our avidly capitalist culture.

But, as clearly evidenced by the many needless care-home resident Covid-19 deaths, big business does not always know or practice what's best for its consumers.

Morally and ethically, the profit buck has to stop with the health and lives of human beings, especially those who have little or no voice.
nursing home deaths? comrade cuomo should be sainted

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cuomos ... rge-pataki

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 448747001/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ne ... e-n1256045

obey your democratic masters

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Did all this happen because he’s a Democrat? Is he a conniver who happens to be a Democrat and who would have been just as despicable if he were a Republican? What are the principles or policy initiatives of the Democratic Party that indicate approval of Cuomo’s behavior and subsequent cover-up?
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Impenitent wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:59 pm
FrankGSterleJr wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:14 am What I admire most about some non-Western cultures is their general belief in and practise of not placing their aged family members in long-term care homes.

As a result, there's no chance they will be caught in thus left vulnerable by cost-cutting measures taken by some care-home business owners to maximize profit.

Here in Canada, for-profit care-home neglect was present before Covid-19; however, we didn't fully comprehend the degree until the pandemic really hit, as we horrifically discovered with the CHSLD Résidence Herron in Dorval, Quebec, about 10 months ago.

Western business mentality and, by extension, collective society, allowed the well-being of our oldest family members to be decided by corporate profit-margin measures. And our governments mostly dared not intervene, perhaps because they feared being labelled as anti-business in our avidly capitalist culture.

But, as clearly evidenced by the many needless care-home resident Covid-19 deaths, big business does not always know or practice what's best for its consumers.

Morally and ethically, the profit buck has to stop with the health and lives of human beings, especially those who have little or no voice.
nursing home deaths? comrade cuomo should be sainted

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cuomos ... rge-pataki

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 448747001/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ne ... e-n1256045

obey your democratic masters

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Greed isn't a conspiracy. It's just greed. :roll:
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[quote=commonsense post_id=496087 time=1613244365 user_id=14610]
[quote=FrankGSterleJr post_id=495965 time=1613182490 user_id=5338]
Morally and ethically, the profit buck has to stop with the health and lives of human beings, especially those who have little or no voice.
[/quote]
In reality businesses are driven by money so that their profits will benefit their stockholders and employees. Perhaps it’s lawsuits for negligence and malpractice, intentional or not, knowingly or not, that will move facilities to improve their care.
[/quote]

Perhaps the answer is that capitalism ALWAYS produces perverse incentives and needs to be eliminated like the virus IT is?
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FrankGSterleJr wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:14 am What I admire most about some non-Western cultures is their general belief in and practise of not placing their aged family members in long-term care homes.

As a result, there's no chance they will be caught in thus left vulnerable by cost-cutting measures taken by some care-home business owners to maximize profit.

Here in Canada, for-profit care-home neglect was present before Covid-19; however, we didn't fully comprehend the degree until the pandemic really hit, as we horrifically discovered with the CHSLD Résidence Herron in Dorval, Quebec, about 10 months ago.

Western business mentality and, by extension, collective society, allowed the well-being of our oldest family members to be decided by corporate profit-margin measures. And our governments mostly dared not intervene, perhaps because they feared being labelled as anti-business in our avidly capitalist culture.

But, as clearly evidenced by the many needless care-home resident Covid-19 deaths, big business does not always know or practice what's best for its consumers.

Morally and ethically, the profit buck has to stop with the health and lives of human beings, especially those who have little or no voice.
no, the self serving everything is for the young, culture has to change. the culture doesn't value what the elderly have or the elderly themselves.
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[quote=DPMartin post_id=497431 time=1613749922 user_id=13848]
no, the self serving everything is for the young, culture has to change. the culture doesn't value what the elderly have or the elderly themselves.
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How could the young these days be expected to take the old seriously when we live in increasingly complex times where that ancient wisdom simply does not apply? Everything is technology now and most people, far more the older ones, just don't "get it" at all.
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Advocate wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:14 pm
DPMartin wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:52 pm no, the self serving everything is for the young, culture has to change. the culture doesn't value what the elderly have or the elderly themselves.
How could the young these days be expected to take the old seriously when we live in increasingly complex times where that ancient wisdom simply does not apply? Everything is technology now and most people, far more the older ones, just don't "get it" at all.
This is not only true, but, I suspect, is the prevailing opinion among the young. And rightly so.
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