bahman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:27 am
Age wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:19 am
bahman wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:08 am
I listen to objections in order to convince people that their objection is not valid.
But you just re-repeating your own views and beliefs instead of countering "another's" actual objections, which is what you tend to do quite frequently here in this forum, does NOT necessarily 'convince' ANY one of ANY thing.
Also, the way you wrote your response here, you CLEARLY BELIEVE that your views are ALREADY irrefutably true and so absolutely ANY objection would just BE WRONG to you anyway.
My responsibility is to provide my argument and make sure that it is well discussed.
If that is your responsibility, then you are not taking ANY responsibility at all here. This is because you are NOT making sure that your arguments are 'well DISCUSSED' at all.
This is because you BELIEVE that your arguments are irrefutably true, and so, to you, there is REALLY NOTHING AT ALL to be discussed here.
bahman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:27 am
Convincing people is another thing. Some people are in a state of denial always.
I will suggest to you that if you are saying some 'thing', which "others" NEED to be 'convinced' of, then this could be a sure sign that it is you who is, in fact, who is in denial.
See, if what you are saying does NOT fit in VERY SIMPLY and VERY EASILY with what is ACTUALLY thee Truth of things, which a lot does NOT, but you BELIEVE wholeheartedly what you say is absolutely and irrefutably true, which you do, then either you are just PLAIN WRONG or it is you who is IN DENIAL.
bahman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:27 am
Age wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:19 am
bahman wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:08 am
I don't think so. There is always objection that can challenge a well-thought argument. A right argument is the one that overcomes all objections.
So what?
To you, your arguments are already well thought out and RIGHT arguments that can NOT be refuted anyway. As I have ALREADY challenged you on this and to which you AGREED IS TRUE.
So what?
So, what this PROVES is that you are NOT OPEN AT ALL to ANY thing, which objects to or opposes what you ALREADY BELIEVE is the truth.
bahman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:27 am
What I said.
Without further clarification this makes NO sense at all, well to me anyway.
bahman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:27 am
Age wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:19 am
bahman wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:08 am
Of course, I do. I have good reason to do so.
But how do you KNOW what is NOT true BEFORE you even LISTEN to 'it'?
How do you know that I am not listening?
By your responses.
bahman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:27 am
Do you think that I am not reading your comments?
In relation to some of my comments, no.
bahman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:27 am
Age wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:19 am
bahman wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:08 am
So you were always right and I was always wrong?
This is NOT what I have said, NOR have even implied in what I have said.
You were the one implying that I was NEVER correct, in your claim here.
Have you ever agree with one of my arguments?
With your arguments sometimes I agree with one or both premises but not with the conclusion, sometimes I agree with the conclusion but not with the premises, as well as I might agree with a part of a premise and/or a conclusion. Each and every argument is uniquely different so there is not that I either agree nor disagree wholeheartedly with the whole argument.
Also, I agree sometimes with what 'it' is that you are 'trying to' argue for. This is because I KNOW what 'it' IS, EXACTLY, which you are 'trying to', but I TOTALLY disagree with the way you are 'trying to' argue for that 'thing'.
bahman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:27 am
Age wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:19 am
bahman wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:08 am
What is your objection?
In regards to 'what', EXACTLY?
I was just stating an IRREFUTABLE FACT.
What was your fact?
And I could now ask you AGAIN, what were you asking me was my objection in regards to exactly? But I will NOT be so benign. So I will just answer your clarifying question here.
My fact was, and still IS,
"Functional" to 'you' is NOT necessarily functional, with thee ACTUAL Truth of things.
bahman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:27 am
Age wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:19 am
bahman wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:08 am
What do you think of this topic.
What I have ALREADY said.
But what you said is contrary to the data that exist for the rate of crime in term of the year.
LOL This is a SURE SIGN that you are NOT reading and comprehending what I have been ACTUALLY WRITING and SAYING.
bahman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:27 am
Age wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:19 am
bahman wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:08 am
Do you think that human beings are equal?
Equal in regards to 'what', EXACTLY?
Equal when it comes to morality.
Besides the FACT that human beings range from the age of being one minute old to being over one hundred years old so they could NOT even be equal in relation to 'moral' issues, what does being " equal when it comes "to morality" " even mean?
Also, what does the word 'morality' even mean to you?
bahman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:27 am
Age wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:19 am
bahman wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:08 am
I think that is you who could not understand my arguments.
I KNOW. You have made this CLAIM previously.
But what you think without ANY actual evidence NOR proof is NOT necessarily worth absolutely ANY thing at all.
The evidence is your constant denial on different subjects.
Denying what is NOT true is NOT necessarily a bad NOR wrong thing, in and of itself.
Also, denying what is NOT true does NOT mean that I do NOT understand your arguments. For what can be, and will be, CLEARLY SEEN and UNDERSTOOD is that 'I' KNOW 'your' arguments BETTER than 'you' do. Which also means, 'I' understand 'your' OWN arguments BETTER than 'you' do.
As is PROVEN in what 'I' and 'you' have ACTUALLY SAID and WRITTEN
bahman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:27 am
Age wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:19 am
bahman wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:08 am
Any instant.
So, do you REALLY BELIEVE that you, at ANY instant, are Truly OPEN and Honest, and Wanting to change for the better?
If yes, then this is a LIE and a DECEIT in and of itself. AND, the ONLY 'one' 'you' are fooling here is 'you'.
Yes, I am honest. Needless to say that you are not in a position to call me a liar since you cannot read my mind.
ONCE AGAIN, 'you' make the CLAIM that "we ARE minds". So, if this was TRUE, then HOW could 'you' "HAVE A mind"?
Also, when, and IF, 'you' ever find out and thus discover and KNOW what thee ACTUAL 'Mind' IS EXACTLY, then 'you' will also learn that the term "reading minds" is misplaced term and as such is just a plain old misnomer.
Also, I can work out and thus KNOW when 'you' are lying or NOT.
This is because 'I' KNOW who and what 'I' AM and who and what 'you' ARE, ALREADY. Whereas 'you' still have quite a way to go yet.
Now, if you would REALLY like to DISCUSS what you have already written and CLAIMED is true, in ANY of your threads, then I can SHOW you EXACTLY and PRECISELY what is ACTUALLY thee Truth of things and what is NOT. So, would you like to do this? Or, would you prefer to just REMAIN with and in your BELIEF that what you have said and claimed so far is absolutely and irrefutably TRUE, RIGHT, and CORRECT?