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are you a racialist

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What if you think race matters but not in a particular good or bad way, what does that make you?
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Re: are you a racialist

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Advocate wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:47 pm What if you think race matters but not in a particular good or bad way, what does that make you?
Banal.
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Re: are you a racialist

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Advocate wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:47 pm What if you think race matters but not in a particular good or bad way, what does that make you?
Incoherent.

If it "matters," but in no way that is either "good" or "bad," then it doesn't matter to anything at all. To say that is both "matters" but does not really "matter" makes no sense at all, so it's incoherent.
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Re: are you a racialist

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Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:49 pm If it "matters," but in no way that is either "good" or "bad," then it doesn't matter to anything at all.
False dichotomy.
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Re: solving racism

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Skepdick wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:45 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:36 pm :lol: Just pointing out the hypocrisy of those who like to throw the 'r' word around. Touchy touchy,
There's no need to task yourself with the moral-superiorty-overwatch duty.

I make it real easy for you: I've confessed to my hypocrisy multiple times. Exactly like my racism.
Skepdick wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:56 pm I keep telling you that I am a hypocrite and it still surprises you?
Skepdick wrote: Sun May 24, 2020 12:41 pm I am a hypocrite.
Skepdick wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:24 pm I am a hypocrite.
And I give you credit for that. Self awareness is very rare.
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Re: solving racism

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[quote=vegetariantaxidermy post_id=478614 time=1604512469 user_id=8006]
[quote=Skepdick post_id=478609 time=1604511912 user_id=17350]
[quote=vegetariantaxidermy post_id=478607 time=1604511381 user_id=8006]
:lol: Just pointing out the hypocrisy of those who like to throw the 'r' word around. Touchy touchy,
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There's no need to task yourself with the moral-superiorty-overwatch duty.

I make it real easy for you: I've confessed to my hypocrisy multiple times. Exactly like my racism.

[quote=Skepdick post_id=461750 time=1594209364 user_id=17350]
I keep telling you that I am a hypocrite and it still surprises you?
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[quote=Skepdick post_id=456530 time=1590320462 user_id=17350]
I am a hypocrite.
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[quote=Skepdick post_id=452633 time=1587821080 user_id=17350]
I am a hypocrite.
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And I give you credit for that. Self awareness is very rare.
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A self-aware dumbass is still a dumbass.
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Re: solving racism

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At least it allows for change...
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Re: solving racism

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[quote=vegetariantaxidermy post_id=478620 time=1604514146 user_id=8006]
At least it allows for change...
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I dispute that.
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Re: solving racism

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Skepdick wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:36 am
Belinda wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:32 am Body piercings and tattoos and other eccentricities of appearance or vocabulary.

Old age

Certain sexual orientations

Physical and mental disability especially when the face is unusual

Unemployed

Low status occupations including students.

Crinimal record

Efforts to conceal the above. I personally would do so.
None of this information is available to the other party at the time the appointment is being made.

I am literally referring to the initial contact/engagement process and the simple failure to return calls/setup appointments.

On most websites it's just "Fill in your name and contact details and we'll get back to you...."

When you engage via whatsapp it's: "Hi, my name is XXX. I am interested in viewing so and so."

If your name is Monica you get one results.
if your name is Sisiwe you get another result.
Yes that's how is done.
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Re: solving racism

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milewheeler1 wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:21 am Yes that's how is done.
That is how my wife does it.

She uses her "white" name to get appointments, because her black name causes trouble.
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Re: solving racism

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[quote=Skepdick post_id=535675 time=1635147544 user_id=17350]
[quote=milewheeler1 post_id=534865 time=1634721708 user_id=22080]
Yes that's how is done.
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That is how my wife does it.

She uses her "white" name to get appointments, because her black name causes trouble.
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Does her white name end in Black or Washington?
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Re: solving racism

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Advocate wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:41 pm There are three reasons you might believe being racist is the correct world-view.

a) You trust that racist people around you to have your best interest in mind.
b) You believe even if racism is bad, there is some other reason to be racist that is more important.
c) Your own experience shows you that racism is necessary.

Each of these can be addressed in a certain epistemological way.
You cannot solve racism completely. It is partly genetic.
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Re: solving racism

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bahman wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:37 am You cannot solve racism completely. It is partly genetic.
There's a racism gene?
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Re: solving racism

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RCSaunders wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:53 pm
bahman wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:37 am You cannot solve racism completely. It is partly genetic.
There's a racism gene?
White is supreme compared to black. Like it or not.
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Re: solving racism

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Since bad news is what sells, what we tend to get from the mainstream news-media are countless cases of interracial disharmony. ...

Although there’s research indicating that infants demonstrate a preference for caregivers of their own race, any future racial biases and bigotries generally are environmentally acquired. Adult racist sentiments are often cemented by a misguided yet strong sense of entitlement, perhaps also acquired from one’s environment.

One means of proactively preventing this social/societal problem may be by allowing young children to become accustomed to other races in a harmoniously positive manner. The early years are typically the best time to instill and even solidify positive social-interaction life skills/traits, like interracial harmonization, into a very young brain. Human infancy is the prime (if not the only) time to instill and even solidify positive social-interaction characteristics into a very young mind.

Irrational racist sentiment can be handed down generation to generation. If it’s deliberate, it’s something I strongly feel amounts to a form of child abuse: to rear one’s impressionably very young children in an environment of overt bigotry — especially against other races and/or sub-racial groups (i.e. ethnicities). Not only does it fail to prepare children for the practical reality of an increasingly racially/ethnically diverse and populous society and workplace, it also makes it so much less likely those children will be emotionally content or (preferably) harmonious with their multicultural/-racial surroundings.

Children reared into their adolescence and, eventually, young adulthood this way can often be angry yet not fully realize at precisely what. Then they may feel left with little choice but to move to another part of the land, where their race or ethnicity predominates, preferably overwhelmingly so. If not for themselves, parents then should do their young children a big favor and NOT pass down onto their very impressionable offspring racially/ethnically bigoted feelings and perceptions, nor implicit stereotypes and ‘humor’, for that matter. Ironically, such rearing can make life much harder for one’s own children.
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