henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:48 amYour choices can harm other human beings in non-obvious ways.
how so?
Trivial example. When we first met my wife was looking to rent a new apartment.
Did the usual thing: browse adverts, request viewing/appointments. 20 requests - 2 returned phone calls.
Turns out this is common experience amongst black folk. A friend of hers recommended she uses a white name in communique.
Did that: 20 requests - 19 returned phone calls.
On principe we've run the experiment two more times. Similar results. As far as I am concerned this is testable and reproducible...
So like. Nameism (if you don't want to call it racism) deprives people of housing opportunities.
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henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:48 amYour choices can harm other human beings in non-obvious ways.
how so?
Trivial example. When we first met my wife was looking to rent a new apartment.
Did the usual thing: browse adverts, request viewing/appointments. 20 requests - 2 returned phone calls.
Turns out this is common experience amongst black folk - they recommended she change her African name to a white name.
Did that: 20 requests - 19 returned phone calls.
On matter of principle we've run the experiment 2 more times since. Same result.
So like. Nameism (if you don't want to call it racism) deprives people of housing opportunities.
There could not have been any other reasons at all?
Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:21 am
So, you can not think of any other reasons for the difference in returned number of calls?
Ceteris paribus. The name-change is the only variable in the experiment.
Can you think of another?
quid est aliud cogitandi - 'you' are thinking in completely different terms than I was, and am.
Can you REALLY not think of ANY other reason WHY there was a difference in the amount of returned calls?
Among most, if not all, human being made up experiments the results of the experiments could be for OTHER reasons than just the ones imagined or assumed.
Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:04 am
There could not have been any other reasons at all?
If you can think of any variable (other than the name-change) let me know.
Will gladly test the alternative hypothesis.
Body piercings and tattoos and other eccentricities of appearance or vocabulary.
Old age
Certain sexual orientations
Physical and mental disability especially when the face is unusual
Unemployed
Low status occupations including students.
Crinimal record
Efforts to conceal the above. I personally would do so.
These are just some, among others, but it was alleged that the deprivation of human beings from housing opportunities was made before sight of the human beings, themselves, is made, so some of the above would not be included.
henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:48 amYour choices can harm other human beings in non-obvious ways.
how so?
Trivial example. When we first met my wife was looking to rent a new apartment.
Did the usual thing: browse adverts, request viewing/appointments. 20 requests - 2 returned phone calls.
Turns out this is common experience amongst black folk. A friend of hers recommended she uses a white name in communique.
Did that: 20 requests - 19 returned phone calls.
On principe we've run the experiment two more times. Similar results. As far as I am concerned this is testable and reproducible...
So like. Nameism (if you don't want to call it racism) deprives people of housing opportunities.