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Nick_A wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:09 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:02 pm
Nick_A wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:53 pm

It isn't a matter of blaming but of understanding why we do what we do.
Look to your own country and ask why anyone would want to follow such a sick crap-hole.
Why ignore the larger question? Why is the world as a whole attracted to pornography? If we knew that, then we may understand the dynamics of child porn
Men are attracted to pornography. It's not really a 'woman thing', although I'm sure when you google it you will find the opposite if you pick enough cherries :roll:

Ps--dance isn't porn.
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Sculptor wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:13 pm
WTF are they telling you on FOx News?
I suppose you think racial equality is "cultural marxism", or some other such meme driven phantom.
Half of the USA population -as you say, the half that watch Fox News- are expecting a communist takeover any minute. I suppose it's a relative thing; what they consider communism, we would consider quite right wing in the UK. All it needs now is for someone to say they are coming to take their guns away from them, and there will be a mass nervous breakdown.
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Harbal wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:15 pm
Nick_A wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:11 pm
Read the song lyrics. It is about young lost souls starved for meaning
And was that song written collectively by the majority of the youth?
No, but is their any justification for this apparent cry out for meaning? If there is, who or what has the obligation to nourish this need rather than taking advantage of it?
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Nick_A wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:27 pm
No, but is their any justification for this apparent cry out for meaning?
I don't know if there is any justification for it.
Nick_A wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:27 pm If there is, who or what has the obligation to nourish this need rather than taking advantage of it?
The young's purpose in life is the same now as it always was: to shock their parents' generation. So at least you are giving them some meaning by obliging them in their endeavour. :)
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Nick_A wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:01 pm
henry quirk wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:58 pm
Harbal wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:00 pm

I don't know what to figure, henry; like everyone else here, I'm only an armchair expert.
well, I ain't shy: the critics are shills...they live and breath inside the pockets of famous folks...like good dogs, they fetch on command...they'll even turn a blind eye to china's slave racket, to the slaver industry, to child rapers, if it keeps 'em in the good graces of well-heeled shitbags...another set of useful idiots who'll get theirs, eventually
Is there anything more corrupt than Hollywood? The real question here is if the arts corrupt human nature or does human nature corrupt the arts?
some men, perverse creatures, skew art away from elevation toward denigration: art should make us bigger; the current iteration of popular art just makes us smaller
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Harbal wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:39 pm
Nick_A wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:27 pm
No, but is their any justification for this apparent cry out for meaning?
I don't know if there is any justification for it.
Nick_A wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:27 pm If there is, who or what has the obligation to nourish this need rather than taking advantage of it?
The young's purpose in life is the same now as it always was: to shock their parents' generation. So at least you are giving them some meaning by obliging them in their endeavour. :)
So the young become adults without meaning. They have their childen who grow up in a meaningless world. On and on it goes. Is justifying Absurdism really the best humanity can do or are some individuals capable of understanding and the way out of Plato's cave?
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henry quirk wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:46 pm
Nick_A wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:01 pm
henry quirk wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:58 pm

well, I ain't shy: the critics are shills...they live and breath inside the pockets of famous folks...like good dogs, they fetch on command...they'll even turn a blind eye to china's slave racket, to the slaver industry, to child rapers, if it keeps 'em in the good graces of well-heeled shitbags...another set of useful idiots who'll get theirs, eventually
Is there anything more corrupt than Hollywood? The real question here is if the arts corrupt human nature or does human nature corrupt the arts?
some men, perverse creatures, skew art away from elevation toward denigration: art should make us bigger; the current iteration of popular art just makes us smaller

Very true. What is collectively called art is lessening in quality and becoming psychologically cheap. The cheaper it becomes, the more it costs. Figure that one out.
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Nick_A wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:54 pm So the young become adults without meaning.
I think it was ever thus, Nick, it's nothing new.
Nick_A wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:54 pm They have their childen who grow up in a meaningless world. On and on it goes.
Yep, that's about the size of it.
Nick_A wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:54 pm Is justifying Absurdism really the best humanity can do
Based on its track record so far, I would have to say yes.
Nick_A wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:54 pm or are some individuals capable of understanding and the way out of Plato's cave?
Perhaps they prefer it in the cave, Nick, after all, you say you found your way out, but all you do is complain about the world.
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Nick_A wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:58 pm DAM
“The first step of the journey is the admission of powerlessness. It is where no one wants to go and no one will go voluntarily. We have to be led there through our own failure and experience of death. In men’s work, we call it the Great Defeat. Franciscans call it poverty. The Carmelites call it nothingness. The Buddhists call it emptiness. The Jews call it the desert. Jesus calls it the sign of Jonah. The New Testament calls it the Way of the Cross. We’re all talking about the same necessary step.” ~ Richard Rohr
If true, what is the attraction to pedophilia which the movie wants to profit from? Why did so many go to Jeffrey Epstein's Lolita Island? Unless we begin to understand the purpose of sex energy, in this climate the result will be more pedophiliacs and people making money off of them at the expense of young lives. The cost of ignorance.
The pedophile experience is just one of many experiences of consciousness. The “cuties” movie is just another energetic experience being expressed by infinite consciousness which just happens to gravitate toward the pedophiliac experience, it’s just this one energy exploring itself in the moment and there is no power on this earth to stop what ever action is arising in the instant, if that is the action that is being expressed as it is appearing.

Understanding Powerlessness just means there is a realisation that there really is no such thing as a wo/man with the power to carry out any action in life, and that there is only infinite consciousness that belongs to no thing and everything expressing itself as and through the mechanical vehicle aka the body, which is conceptually known to consciousness as the human experience. The body being the only instrument available for this one all knowing, all experiencing energy to experience itself in infinite ways including the experience of being a pedophile, or the desire to make money and profit at the expense of vulnerable innocents, which are just more experiences. This infinite consciousness can and will dream up just about every conceivable experience that is ever possible, and will manifest each and every experience as a reality simply because that’s the nature of infinite expression. It’s who we are quite self evidently. We are One Infinity witnessing itself in real-time this dramatic multiplex sound and light show that is every conceivable experience known, by the only knowing there is which is consciousness.
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Well isn't anybody going to say something?

I hate awkward silences. :(
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Harbal wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:25 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:13 pm
WTF are they telling you on FOx News?
I suppose you think racial equality is "cultural marxism", or some other such meme driven phantom.
Half of the USA population -as you say, the half that watch Fox News- are expecting a communist takeover any minute. I suppose it's a relative thing; what they consider communism, we would consider quite right wing in the UK. All it needs now is for someone to say they are coming to take their guns away from them, and there will be a mass nervous breakdown.
And MLK was a Soviet Agent!!
Obama was a Muslim fifth columnist.
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Harbal wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:56 pm Well isn't anybody going to say something?

I hate awkward silences. :(
Gosh. Dontaskme's post was almost coherent.
Do you know what he was trying to say?
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The pedophile experience is just one of many experiences of consciousness. The “cuties” movie is just another energetic experience being expressed by infinite consciousness which just happens to gravitate toward the pedophiliac experience, it’s just this one energy exploring itself in the moment and there is no power on this earth to stop what ever action is arising in the instant, if that is the action that is being expressed as it is appearing.

good lord, you make child rape sound like just another libidinal alternative

these animals need exterminatin', not understandin'

there's nuthin' decent or kind in cuttin' 'em any slack
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What is collectively called art is lessening in quality and becoming psychologically cheap. The cheaper it becomes, the more it costs. Figure that one out.

as you often point out: man is torn between base (lower) impulse and his (higher) aspirations

climbin' the mountain is hard, but the peak is worth the cost; lettin' gravity just pull you down is easy, but the sudden stop at the bottom literally is a killer
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henry quirk wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:04 pm What is collectively called art is lessening in quality and becoming psychologically cheap. The cheaper it becomes, the more it costs. Figure that one out.

as you often point out: man is torn between base (lower) impulse and his (higher) aspirations

climbin' the mountain is hard, but the peak is worth the cost; lettin' gravity just pull you down is easy, but the sudden stop at the bottom literally is a killer
OK but first we have to decide if the following video can be considered art and have socially redeeming features or is it just child porn?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/0UNL780Re2I
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