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Re: Essential services during the pandemic

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henry quirk wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:47 pm The "progressives" were counselling caution
Were progressives counseling caution when they attempted to hijack the initial relief bill with nonsense like...

Publication of corporate pay statistics by race and race statistics for all corporate boards
A bail out on all current debt at the Postal Service
Required early voting
Required same day voter registration
Provisions on official time for union collective bargaining
Full offset of airline emissions by 2025
Publication and reporting of greenhouse gas statistics for individual flights
Retirement plans for community newspaper employees
Federal $15 minimum wage
Permanent paid leave
Study on climate change mitigation efforts


The initial bill was supposed to solely offer relief to individuals and businesses who'd suffered cuz of lockdowns.
That's the game of chicken that your politicians routinely play with each other, both sides do it as you well know. You put something abhorent that the other side won't vote for in there specifically so that they risk going on record voting against a bill that is nominally something everyone agrees with, just in time for their next oponent to slam them in some TV ads, which is why it is doubly popular in important election years. In this case the Democrats needed to trade those things that Republicans would never vote for to get them to remove provisions in the draft bill which would, as I recall, prevent anybody poor from receiving that government money due to the way the Republicans set up that tranche of cash to be routed entirely through the IRS.
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Re: Essential services during the pandemic

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FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:56 am
henry quirk wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:47 pm The "progressives" were counselling caution
Were progressives counseling caution when they attempted to hijack the initial relief bill with nonsense like...

Publication of corporate pay statistics by race and race statistics for all corporate boards
A bail out on all current debt at the Postal Service
Required early voting
Required same day voter registration
Provisions on official time for union collective bargaining
Full offset of airline emissions by 2025
Publication and reporting of greenhouse gas statistics for individual flights
Retirement plans for community newspaper employees
Federal $15 minimum wage
Permanent paid leave
Study on climate change mitigation efforts


The initial bill was supposed to solely offer relief to individuals and businesses who'd suffered cuz of lockdowns.
That's the game of chicken that your politicians routinely play with each other, both sides do it as you well know. You put something abhorent that the other side won't vote for in there specifically so that they risk going on record voting against a bill that is nominally something everyone agrees with, just in time for their next oponent to slam them in some TV ads, which is why it is doubly popular in important election years. In this case the Democrats needed to trade those things that Republicans would never vote for to get them to remove provisions in the draft bill which would, as I recall, prevent anybody poor from receiving that government money due to the way the Republicans set up that tranche of cash to be routed entirely through the IRS.
True, but irrelevant to my point.

Up-thread, it was claimed progressives counseled caution early in the Coronapocalypse. I offered up two examples disputin' that claim.
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as an aside...

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From the start, in a variety of ways, I've said the wool is bein' pulled over our eyes with this Fu Manflu bullshit.

This...

That's the game of chicken that your politicians routinely play with each other,

...is a very good piece of evidence for that wool. All those Washington types drone on and on about the unprecedented wu flu event and how we, the lil people, have to radically alter our behavior, but when it comes to their own jackassery, well, it's just business as usual.
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Re: as an aside...

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henry quirk wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:30 am From the start, in a variety of ways, I've said the wool is bein' pulled over our eyes with this Fu Manflu bullshit.

This...

That's the game of chicken that your politicians routinely play with each other,

...is a very good piece of evidence for that wool. All those Washington types drone on and on about the unprecedented wu flu event and how we, the lil people, have to radically alter our behavior, but when it comes to their own jackassery, well, it's just business as usual.
True. Our own health minister has been caught out twice breaking the rules that he's telling everyone else to stick to.
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