So, I have expressed clearly what a pregnant female of the human species is carrying in the womb when she is pregnant, from my perspective.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:08 pmNothing sinister. I just mean that when one knows whether the entity in the womb is human, and when one knows that it is a person, one has different answers to what is ethical to do with it than if one supposes it's not human but only "life," and not a person but "meat."
Has any one else done this here?
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:08 pmTo me, this thread title has only one question, which only asks one thing, only.
To me, there is absolutely nothing about murder, killing, not abortion.
Well, perhaps that's because you missed the strand from which the question was generated, on which the subject (and the application of the question) was abortion. Perhaps that could have been specified, if that's what Henry wanted us to focus on.
You are right to say that you didn't start talking about the abortion/murder issue. However, I doubt it's obscure.
What other people are talking about among themselves might not be obscure, if it was being read/listened to, but I have NOT discussed the abortion/murder issue, for OBVIOUS reasons.
I do NOT like to assume any thing so I was NOT wondering what the question was going to turn out to be. I just wait to SEE what occurs.
I was NOT thinking of any thing in regards to what that question was "going to turn out to be". For the OBVIOUS reason that no matter what one person calls 'it', which is within a pregnant female, that will have absolutely NO bearing on what another person calls 'it' and thinks about abortion, murder, and/or killing.
To even discuss the issue of abortion is a waste of time because besides the matter being a to subjective of a matter NO one has a right to say any thing without KNOWING ALL scenarios and/or KNOWING each and every particular event that has lead up to a particular a scenario. This is from my perspective, but obviously you are free to discuss this issue for as long as you want to.
Do you class a person who has completely opposite views to you a "reasoning person" also? Or, do you NOT class them as "a reasoning person"?
This is NOT about "if 'you' will. This is NOT about 'me'. I did NOT use the 'we' word, you did. So, 'you' HAVE TO be able to clarify what 'you' yourself are saying and talking about.
The 'we' that you are referring to here can be so many different things that when, and if, you LOOKED AT this OPENLY and Honestly, then you will SEE that you really have NO idea of what you are talking about. Just like EVERY other adult human being when they use words like 'we' have absolutely NO idea what they are talking about. Through clarifying questioning this can be very easily and simply evidenced and SHOWN to be correct.