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An Ethical Reason To Be Good

Post by TryingMyBest » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:57 am

I am more interested in the Truth than being right, but I think I'm right.
Definitions:
To Be Good: to exist in reality
To Do Good: To increase the amount of good things in reality
Good Things: all things that are real, including values
To Be Evil: to be subtracted of all that is good; to not exist in reality
To Do Evil: To decrease the amount of good things in reality
Pure Good: Reality in harmony such that there is no evil
Pure Evil: The non-existence of that which is good

"Humans can be evil" is a false statement that humans have believed for generations. Humans are things that are real. Therefore, humans are good. Humans can do evil actions, thereby decreasing the amount of good from reality. So how can something that is good do something that is evil? It is because they believe in the false statement that "humans can be evil" and therefore justify their evil actions. Once it is realized that all humans are good, the veil is lifted, and each human that realizes this will begin doing good and not evil. "All humans are good" is a reason to act in a way that increases the amount of good things in reality. The fact that "all humans are good" is an ethical reason to be good. We reflect in our actions that which we perceive from the world. Anyone who is acting in an evil way has not yet realized that all humans are, in fact, good. Because if he did realize this, then he would do good and not evil.

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Re: An Ethical Reason To Be Good

Post by TryingMyBest » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:24 pm

If "humans can be evil entities" is false, then it is just a matter of time until this realization spreads and influences human behavior for the better.

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Re: An Ethical Reason To Be Good

Post by gaffo » Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:23 am

TryingMyBest wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:57 am
I am more interested in the Truth than being right, but I think I'm right.
Definitions:
To Be Good: to exist in reality
To Do Good: To increase the amount of good things in reality
Good Things: all things that are real, including values
To Be Evil: to be subtracted of all that is good; to not exist in reality
To Do Evil: To decrease the amount of good things in reality
Pure Good: Reality in harmony such that there is no evil
Pure Evil: The non-existence of that which is good
To be/do good is to be empathetic.

to be/do evil is the reverse - selfish.

cannot further contribute it the interesting thread of good/evil since the original poster does not understand my understanding of what both/either are.

carry on.

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Re: An Ethical Reason To Be Good

Post by -1- » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:58 am

TryingMyBest wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:57 am
I am more interested in the Truth than being right.
This means that you can consider truth to be wrong.

Interesting concept.

"Gravity is wrong."

"Language is wrong."

"Logic is absolutely and hopelessly, helplessly wrong."

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Re: An Ethical Reason To Be Good

Post by Logik » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:13 am

-1- wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:58 am
TryingMyBest wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:57 am
I am more interested in the Truth than being right.
This means that you can consider truth to be wrong.

Interesting concept.

"Gravity is wrong."

"Language is wrong."

"Logic is absolutely and hopelessly, helplessly wrong."
Truth - the eternal banner of those who want to be “right”.

What is it that you want to be “right” about and why?
*crickets*

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Re: An Ethical Reason To Be Good

Post by -1- » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:15 am

Logik wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:13 am

Truth - the eternal banner of those who want to be “right”.

What is it that you want to be “right” about and why?
*crickets*
This is precisely why I found the post by Trying My Best so intriguing.

P.s. this post is actually not about me and what I said. Get your reference in order, Logik. Please consider that what I said was in reference to a post by Trying My Best. I even quoted it, and it was more obvious than death that that's what I was referring to. If you missed that, please re-read.

I took on myself your "cricket" reference, as you addressed me as the person who wants to be "right" about something, and I consider it a direct, rude, and obnoxious, furthermore uncalled insult. You fucking asshole. :-)

You are twisting and turning and mangling the reference in your desperate and false attempt to make me look bad.

You piece of shit. :-)

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Re: An Ethical Reason To Be Good

Post by Belinda » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:23 am

TryingMyBest wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:57 am
I am more interested in the Truth than being right, but I think I'm right.
Definitions:
To Be Good: to exist in reality
To Do Good: To increase the amount of good things in reality
Good Things: all things that are real, including values
To Be Evil: to be subtracted of all that is good; to not exist in reality
To Do Evil: To decrease the amount of good things in reality
Pure Good: Reality in harmony such that there is no evil
Pure Evil: The non-existence of that which is good

"Humans can be evil" is a false statement that humans have believed for generations. Humans are things that are real. Therefore, humans are good. Humans can do evil actions, thereby decreasing the amount of good from reality. So how can something that is good do something that is evil? It is because they believe in the false statement that "humans can be evil" and therefore justify their evil actions. Once it is realized that all humans are good, the veil is lifted, and each human that realizes this will begin doing good and not evil. "All humans are good" is a reason to act in a way that increases the amount of good things in reality. The fact that "all humans are good" is an ethical reason to be good. We reflect in our actions that which we perceive from the world. Anyone who is acting in an evil way has not yet realized that all humans are, in fact, good. Because if he did realize this, then he would do good and not evil.
Your original axiom, TryingMyBest, is that, because good is real and good is existence and evil is absence of good, good is the default. This is or should be the basic dogma of religious ethics and ideological ethics, because if there were no existence itself then there could be no possibility of good.

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Re: An Ethical Reason To Be Good

Post by Logik » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:46 am

-1- wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:15 am
Logik wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:13 am

Truth - the eternal banner of those who want to be “right”.

What is it that you want to be “right” about and why?
*crickets*
This is precisely why I found the post by Trying My Best so intriguing.

P.s. this post is actually not about me and what I said. Get your reference in order, Logik. Please consider that what I said was in reference to a post by Trying My Best. I even quoted it, and it was more obvious than death that that's what I was referring to. If you missed that, please re-read.

I took on myself your "cricket" reference, as you addressed me as the person who wants to be "right" about something, and I consider it a direct, rude, and obnoxious, furthermore uncalled insult. You fucking asshole. :-)

You are twisting and turning and mangling the reference in your desperate and false attempt to make me look bad.

You piece of shit. :-)
Thaaaat's it! Get it off your shoulders!

Have a beer afterwards and examine your life-choices.

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Re: An Ethical Reason To Be Good

Post by bahman » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:30 pm

TryingMyBest wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:57 am
I am more interested in the Truth than being right, but I think I'm right.
Definitions:
To Be Good: to exist in reality
To Do Good: To increase the amount of good things in reality
Good Things: all things that are real, including values
To Be Evil: to be subtracted of all that is good; to not exist in reality
To Do Evil: To decrease the amount of good things in reality
Pure Good: Reality in harmony such that there is no evil
Pure Evil: The non-existence of that which is good

"Humans can be evil" is a false statement that humans have believed for generations. Humans are things that are real. Therefore, humans are good. Humans can do evil actions, thereby decreasing the amount of good from reality. So how can something that is good do something that is evil? It is because they believe in the false statement that "humans can be evil" and therefore justify their evil actions. Once it is realized that all humans are good, the veil is lifted, and each human that realizes this will begin doing good and not evil. "All humans are good" is a reason to act in a way that increases the amount of good things in reality. The fact that "all humans are good" is an ethical reason to be good. We reflect in our actions that which we perceive from the world. Anyone who is acting in an evil way has not yet realized that all humans are, in fact, good. Because if he did realize this, then he would do good and not evil.
Are you Catholic? Anyway, evil is not lack of good. Evil is necessary for evolution. We wouldn't be here without evil.

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Re: An Ethical Reason To Be Good

Post by Atla » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:39 pm

TryingMyBest wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:57 am
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To Be Good: to exist in reality
...
To Be Evil: to be subtracted of all that is good; to not exist in reality
...
Unfortunately, reality isn't "Good" at all. It has a few parts here and there that are Good for most humans, but overall it has nothing to do with Good.

Good, Evil, and neither of those, all exist in reality.

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Re: An Ethical Reason To Be Good

Post by Nick_A » Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:48 am

Atla wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:39 pm
TryingMyBest wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:57 am
...
To Be Good: to exist in reality
...
To Be Evil: to be subtracted of all that is good; to not exist in reality
...
Unfortunately, reality isn't "Good" at all. It has a few parts here and there that are Good for most humans, but overall it has nothing to do with Good.

Good, Evil, and neither of those, all exist in reality.
Do we really feel the difference between good ad evil?
Literature and morality: Imaginary evil is romantic and varied; real evil is gloomy, monotonous, barren, boring. Imaginary good is boring; real good is always new, marvellous, intoxicating. Therefore "imaginative literature" is either boring or immoral (or a mixture of both). It only escapes from this alternative if in some way it passes over to the side of reality through the power of art— and only genius can do that ~ Simone Weil
I have to admit that sometimes I confuse good and evil

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