An Existential Question For Those Who Do The Most Enormous Harm

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Re: An Existential Question For Those Who Do The Most Enormous Harm

Post by Necromancer » Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:04 pm

Necromancer wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:06 pm
If people care to hear about it there is a "Bad People List" for Those Who Do The Most Enormous Harm.

The bad people list is one that says bad people become worshippers of all that's wrong, failure and errors become their name. As well as playing in the sewers and "having" it too! ++++

Infection levels rise in such people as their bodies begin to attack themselves.

At the very last, they risk dying of stupidity by nervous system breakdown, spine, feelings and brain being parts.

I guess they are WARNED! 8) :twisted: :mrgreen:

Note: you can read the opposite list here: The Good People List, https://www.facebook.com/notes/lukas-f- ... 219389223/. In the meanwhile, I'll work out one "possible" Bad People List.
The Bad People List
* Apart from "at the very last, they risk dying of stupidity by nervous system breakdown, spine, feelings and brain being parts."
* They tend to divert from normal, straight sexuality to sado-masochism to sadistic pedophilia to torture of kids for satisfaction to all out seeking the worst forms of sadistic, sodomistic acts. Note that there is mild schizophrenia and to the very end of "category"-schizophrenia which is the all out search for sadistic, sodomistic acts. They also risk losing their penises (by "cancer") and their wombs (the cellular walls come out the vagina, also a kind of "cancer"). At the very end, their sex is nothing what we regard normally as on-screen porn.
* Failure and errors tend to grow on them as they decline in their downward spiral of insanity.
* When they're not stimulated they tend to become more and more stupid.
* You have the usual list of schizophrenic symptoms like language breakdown, cognitive breakdown (inability to think), demons and angels by voices in their heads become more and more common to their decision-making. At the end, they are only these voices.
* They consider themselves as sh*t and of no value. This goes for others too and whatever the World "outside" is.
* They lose possibility for using words like intelligence, mind, morality, ethics, dingity and so on and they stick to physical objects in "navigating the World". Physical objects confirm them of their beings, especially when they hold on to them.
* They can stare for hours into air for tiniest particles (given they have vision for this) and "generate thoughts about them".
* Some lose the ability to live inside a proper home they own, "professional homeless people".
* At the very end, they enjoy darkness and sit and stare into it in a basement or something, perhaps humid, and think the most immoral thoughts, "unable to stand light".
* They do not handle money or finances very well or entirely losing that ability.
* They may be a hazard to themselves in an instant, doing injury to themselves or killing themselves with whatever that seems suitable or is perceived as possibility.
* They start to enjoy feces and urine and at the very end has a passion for sewage and for "special kinds of feces", believe it or not.
* They have no regard for people's health or well-being, most certainly at the extreme end. Even at a medium stage, they can't stand children or they hurt them or worse.
* As the body starts to attack itself, (self-generated) voices in the head as a possible symptom, they generate infections more and more. Their risky behaviour makes them aquire all sorts of bacteria, viruses and parasites.
* As the body starts to attack itself, they also generate cancer and can die from all sorts of diseases, vastly more so than the morally sound people who maintain a good health throughout life (except depression which requires antidepressants).
* More... ???

Already, you may say that the moral blindness is certainly not desirable and I can't warn people enough of going that way to moral blindness and the schizophrenia downward spiral.

You can, of course, read Hervey Cleckley's The Mask of Sanity (or what I will call: The Monster Behind the Mask of Human Being). Buy any you like, but note they vary in length. I have the 3rd ed., 1955.

"Tell me if I'm wrong!" 8) :!:

Note.
It's important to note that psychiatry can do a lot for people suffering mental illness, also those suffering from schizophrenia. Some way get to appear quite normal with much of the symptoms nullified for time of medication and other treatment. See comments under mSomatism (Modified Somatism). Suggestion for the full treatment of ("deep") schizophrenia:
* Injected opiates/subutex/"clean" heroin, at suitable locations/hospitals/clinics/special homes?
* Electro-convulsion therapy, ECT (that is generally enjoyed by these patients)
* One special type of cancer drug removing (some) "warty/papilloma"-stuff (from Australia?) may be Nivolumab (Opdivo)? Though I can't remember the mechanisms.
* The usual schizophrenics drugs, especially the Zyprexa kind plus one higher up in strength or one lower in strength.

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Re: An Existential Question For Those Who Do The Most Enormous Harm

Post by commonsense » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:38 am

Gary, are you still there?

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Re: An Existential Question For Those Who Do The Most Enormous Harm

Post by Dalek Prime » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:46 pm

No existence... No harm... No foul.

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Re: An Existential Question For Those Who Do The Most Enormous Harm

Post by Lacewing » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:04 pm

Hey Gary,

I hope you're still around because you're one of the nicest people on this site. You seem very genuine, and you often ask good and thoughtful questions.

While all of the things you said are "true", there is much more that is also true. For all the terrible, wasteful, destructive things that we do -- there are also very beautiful and productive and caring things that we do. So if you remove yourself because of the bad you feel that you inflict, the world loses the good too. It's part of the whole package. The "whole package" is amazing.

I used to worry about all of my interactions with people. I was careful not to freak them out with my wild ideas. I was so gentle and supportive and loving. I didn't want people to feel fear or unhappiness. I wanted to protect them and help them and inspire them. I didn't want to do anything that might cause them harm. Then something began occurring to me. I was not giving the spirit in people enough credit for manifesting their own experience, whatever it might be. And I was not considering that divine perfection has filters and accelerators built-in, that help people to protect and pace/propel themselves as needed. I think that's when I really got a sense for the divine in all... and the interactive dances within that oneness. We create for ourselves, and provide each other with, an amazing landscape of experience. We can get sucked in and mired -- or we can fly and explore -- or anything in-between. We're vibrating off of each other.

I think that every individual is a divine part of spirit, and they are making their choices all the time for the experience they are intent on having. If I come along and do or say something disruptive OR enlightening, they will either use me as a tool for their purposes, or ignore me. And I will respond to them the same way. If everyone is a divine part of spirit, it's all okay -- and there is really nothing we must do for the direction of their trip. It's bigger than us, you know?

Additionally, every single action can be viewed in both positive and negative ways. It simply depends on the perspective and what you want to do with it. If someone does something really awful, there could be amazing fallout from that. Conversely, someone may do something for all the right reasons, and it ends in disaster. So what are we to do? (I think) Live each and every moment as genuinely and gratefully as we can. We strive to do our best, but we can be forgiving about all the ways we fall short. Having a sense of humor about the absurd things we think and create. And having lots of love for ourselves and all of it. Surely any true god would feel that way. So much love and understanding and joy!!!

Love is the answer to everything that doesn't seem okay. Love as much as you can from wherever you are. Even if you feel horrible... love that. If you can't see any beauty and reason, it's not because there isn't any anywhere. The waves of perception are continually flowing and shifting with time. Just think about love for every level of existence. And when you're done doing that, you'll feel really good. :)

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Re: An Existential Question For Those Who Do The Most Enormous Harm

Post by Gary Childress » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:20 am

Thanks. I'm still here. I pop in from time to time though sometimes less frequently than others.

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Re: An Existential Question For Those Who Do The Most Enormous Harm

Post by commonsense » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:57 pm

Gary Childress wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:20 am
Thanks. I'm still here. I pop in from time to time though sometimes less frequently than others.
Cool.

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Re: An Existential Question For Those Who Do The Most Enormous Harm

Post by Lacewing » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:50 pm

Gary Childress wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:20 am
Thanks. I'm still here. I pop in from time to time though sometimes less frequently than others.
So I'm wondering... does it make any difference for you when people point out alternatives to the particular perspective you are describing... or do you feel intent on the perspective (or even overwhelmed by it) to the degree that it won't shift no matter what else is shown/suggested to you at the time?

How does it serve/help you to discuss/express it?

Do you feel you have a choice in the matter?

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Re: An Existential Question For Those Who Do The Most Enormous Harm

Post by surreptitious57 » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:51 pm

I cannot tell Gary what he can or should do as that is a matter for him and also because I dont give advice. I can only say what I think and do
I avoid harming others by being physically isolated and emotionally detached. This provides me with much space to be myself. And so long as
I am not harming anyone I can live with myself. Being alone does not bother me because I am always alone. I will also die alone but that does
not bother me either. I have no fear of death and will actually welcome it when the time comes since it will be the end of all suffering for me

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Re: An Existential Question For Those Who Do The Most Enormous Harm

Post by Necromancer » Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:18 am

Necromancer wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:06 pm
If people care to hear about it there is a "Bad People List" for Those Who Do The Most Enormous Harm.

The bad people list is one that says bad people become worshippers of all that's wrong, failure and errors become their name. As well as playing in the sewers and "having" it too! ++++

Infection levels rise in such people as their bodies begin to attack themselves.

At the very last, they risk dying of stupidity by nervous system breakdown, spine, feelings and brain being parts.

I guess they are WARNED! 8) :twisted: :mrgreen:

Note: you can read the opposite list here: The Good People List, https://www.facebook.com/notes/lukas-f- ... 219389223/. In the meanwhile, I'll work out one "possible" Bad People List.
Addition: To The Bad People List: Some BAD people are so utterly bad that they are treated as special waste in terms of "garbage handling". This is a secret from the trade of the coroner! Add this to the special insurance trade secret of "tainted buildings" by "creepy animal/spectre/phantom" making the building unusable. 2 points, coroner and insurance business.

Update! To The Bad People List
* May be intensely obsessed with work, doing work in order to present themselves as people. Though, with poor or very poor job execution most or all the time! Their poor brains may even require little energy and thus, paradoxically, enable them to do unnaturally long work shifts, do much (manual?) work. Compare to being on amphetamine?

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