Philosophy Now Forum

dorothea wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:56 pm When you've sat side by side with people whose families and children have been destroyed in front of their eyes by bestial soldiers, and felt the pure evil of it, you don't have much patience with apologists for the supremacist ideology that is at the root of it. Good bye. I hope you'll see the light.

dorothea wrote:... Philosophical and ethical content is zero and this kind of futile argument leads nowhere. ...

More than 50 states, Muslim ruled, have declared war on western values, values of equality and tolerance which are absolutely superior to anything they have to offer, and all of the Muslims killed on a daily basis are the victims of Muslim sectarian hate. ...

(Anyone who really cares about humanity would be directing their attention elsewhere: for example, do you know what has happened to 40,000 Kurds living in a Turkish suburb that was flattened by Turkish tanks and artillery a while back? Have you seen the media fuss? No. There hasn't been one. Apparently the BBC et al think the harmless buffoon of a US president is the only threat to civilisation.)

I've worked face to face with survivors of these atrocities and perhaps that's the chasmic gulf between us. When you've sat side by side with people whose families and children have been destroyed in front of their eyes by bestial soldiers, and felt the pure evil of it, you don't have much patience with apologists for the supremacist ideology that is at the root of it. Good bye. I hope you'll see the light.

Seleucus wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:16 pm Do you stand with the Rohingya because they are an Indo-European people resisting an onslaught of Orientals? Or do you reject them because they have fallen to the Semitic cult, Islam? Do you stand with the Uyghurs because they are arguably of Caucasian race, a remnant of the ancient Tocharians, or turn against them because they too fell in with the cult of Islam? Are you warmer towards Filipinos because they are Christians despite that they are racially Austronesian? Should we support the Kurds because they are Aryan people? Should we extend special aid to the Kalasha of Kafiristan, possibly the descendants of the Greek and Macedonian soldiers of Alexander? Iraq was a Roman province for a thousand years, oughtn't it to be rescued from the Arabs? On the other hand, the Semitic people are the other branch of the Caucasian family and ought to therefore be embraced despite having fallen I subscribe to the ethic that is founded on the parable of the Good Samaritan.under the cult of Islam. What do you think? Would you accept someone who is the same race but of an alien culture over someone who is another race but shares your language and religious beliefs? The truth is of course that language, race, and religion tend to align, but in cases where they don't?

Belinda wrote:I don't understand how Arising_uk thinks it's wrong to interfere. ...

There is a lot of suffering that needs attention. ...

I think that we should try to save others from human rights abuses whichever country they live in. ...

The ethic is the strong should help the weak.

Arising_uk wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:29 am

Belinda wrote:I don't understand how Arising_uk thinks it's wrong to interfere. ...

Depends what you mean by "interfere"?

There is a lot of suffering that needs attention. ...

And how will you do this?
Write urgent action letters for Amnesty International.

I think that we should try to save others from human rights abuses whichever country they live in. ...

Why? Do you think someone should have stepped in and stopped the Americans?
Many people tried to stop human rights abuses in America as elsewhere.

The ethic is the strong should help the weak.

Well it's a nice thought but how about the weak learn to help themselves otherwise they're always going to be weak?

Belinda wrote:Sometimes people cannot help themselves as you very well know.

Arising_uk wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:22 am

Belinda wrote:Sometimes people cannot help themselves as you very well know.

I do and what I want to know is what you actually propose when you say you want to help the weak in other countries?

Belinda wrote:...
If the latter, I mention in particular that there are charities that help the weak in other countries. If you watch television you will be aware of the flood of requests for donations at this time of year especially. I have already mentioned Amnesty International and that is a way in which poor people with almost no money to spare can actively help other poor people, by making known to authorities that people from different nations,different levels of education, and different social classes know about allegations of human rights abuses, and what they ask for to stop those specific abuses.

Politically I support funding of foreign aid because corruption, inefficiency, and ignorance wherever they occur affect the whole world not only the poorer nations. ...

Belinda wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:33 pm What you wrote is not racist, Viveca.

Viveka wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:50 am I hate to be 'racist' but blacks appear to have a culture of their own. Ebonics is a recognized language alongside proper English. Rap music is always 'gangster' and appeals to young black folks and when it isn't it's pretty good, as long as it isn't about money or sex or fame or drugs and the 'screet'. Honestly, when I was in High School I was amazed that the black people even passed English class or understood Shakespeare.

End racist rant.