Ethical scenarios, real and imagined

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Dalek Prime
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Re: Ethical scenarios, real and imagined

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Walker wrote:You have not once addressed content.

You're just screwing around.

And you're not wasting my time anymore.
You're wasting your own time. Take responsibility for yourself, you muffin.
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Re: Ethical scenarios, real and imagined

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The point is, if you would engage in content, then you would not waste anyone’s time.

It’s difficult to think that you don’t understand the simplicity of this.


So, I don’t really know what to call it. You’re being cute, a clown, a fool, feminine, coy, mincing, weird?


There could be a tremendous amount of in-depth discussion on God = Ego.

But not with you. You play silly little word games, and waste the time of people.

They don’t waste the time for engaging with you.

You waste their time for not engaging in content.

And I turn your intent to waste my time into something positive for myself, and anyone who sees the truth :) , by setting it into words.

You on the other hand, somehow call wasting the time of people, taking responsibility.
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Re: Ethical scenarios, real and imagined

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Walker wrote:The point is, if you would engage in content, then you would not waste anyone’s time.

It’s difficult to think that you don’t understand the simplicity of this.


So, I don’t really know what to call it. You’re being cute, a clown, a fool, feminine, coy, mincing, weird?


There could be a tremendous amount of in-depth discussion on God = Ego.

But not with you. You play silly little word games, and waste the time of people.

They don’t waste the time for engaging with you.

You waste their time for not engaging in content.

And I turn your intent to waste my time into something positive for myself, and anyone who sees the truth :) , by setting it into words.

You on the other hand, somehow call wasting the time of people, taking responsibility.
So, why engage me? I've noted you follow me around like a puppy. Who's responsible for that?
Walker
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Re: Ethical scenarios, real and imagined

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A: In once sense, to elicit viable, rational responses to injustice, and injustice's inherent cousin, fairness denied, a reaction to time-and-place.
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Re: Ethical scenarios, real and imagined

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Disclaimer: For the rational, any worth of an opinion must be ascertained, however worthlessness must be proven. Proving worthlessness with opinion is a worthless proof.

Those who want to live under socialism are idealists. The ideal of a socialist citizen is that no person be harmed, and that there is no intent to harm another. For example, Swami Vivekananda, who was a disciple of Sri Ramakrishna, was a socialist. Many like him, who have seen the poverty in under-developed regions of the world, have the compassionate gut-reaction that none should continue to suffer or ever suffer again.

As a theory isolate from human nature, talking the talk of socialism satisfies that idealistic itch of no-suffering, and one can forge ahead with a phiolosophy of life that no one, or oneself, will continue to suffer.

However, gut reactions cannot build the utopia of no suffering for any and all.

The survival imperative is triggered by hunger, territorial protection, perceived bodily threat, etc. Under conditions where the survival imperative is not present, even cats and dogs will exhibit ahimsa towards one another.

For cats and dogs, being a pet eliminates the survival threat of hunger, weather, and stranger danger. To a lesser, briefer and more changeable extent, these conditions can also apply to wild animals. Add maternal instinct and inter-species adopting has been known to occur.

The aim of socialism is to make folks into pets. For a human, being a pet, with no need for the survival imperative to self-activate, also can trigger himisa. Talk about your unintended consequences.

When the government aims to keep folks as pets and satisfy the survival imperatives of a pet, human nature still prevails. People still perceive threats and react with fight or flight, because fight or flight is a reaction to problems.

It’s well known that if people don’t have problems they will create problems for themselves. Lesser known and almost inconceivable by the poor is the fact that rich people suffer just as deeply as poor people, and even more in the sense that when a rich person loses, they lose more and have a lot more over which to suffer.

Example, if Richy Rich’s mansion, which cost so much of his life force to acquire, burns down, he will suffer more than if a bum’s cardboard-box castle burns down, unless citizen bum, who enjoys the same civil liberties as Richy Rich, happens to be in the box at the fateful time of chemical change.

This is because in material terms, mansions cost more, and one who would bother with acquiring a physical mansion likely factors dollar cost into categorizing the worth of the world and suffering.

Under the principle of capitalism, the energetic fight or flight for survival takes well-known forms ranging from persuading to buy, to stealing, to retreating to the dole (flight.) Each person has a tendency for each of the three options, tendencies shaped by nature and nurture, and so on ...

… to continue would place order to the croutons, the various veggies, and the blue cheese dressing, like salad on a big plastic cafeteria plate, divided and segregated into the little molded dividers for various side dishes, and although order leads to a deeper foundation of exposition, which enumerates and interweaves other existing elements to naturally correlate with the principles of himsa, ahimsa, and suffering, enough for here to say that the ordering into explanation, as opposed to discovery, would lead to the already visible conclusion, namely:

- In the material world, the wealthy man is king.
- In a spiritual world, the priest is king.
- In utopia, the king has yet to be known.
- In a socialist world, the Pigs* are king.

* Pigs as defined in George Orwell’s Animal Farm.
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Re: Ethical scenarios, real and imagined

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Dalek Prime wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:05 am So, why engage me? I've noted you follow me around like a puppy. Who's responsible for that?
The worth of opinion must be ascertained.

Example: When elicitation is not egocentric, another name for choicelessness, wu wei, surrendering undo Thee, the nameless thing of a thousand names ... is Mr. Ed.

Plus: It's a counter-intuitive tactic of ordering-central to have time lords occasionally pursue daleks, who knows why.

Double Plus: I've observed that in this phase of existence, I sometimes talk to ghosts.
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