The Art of Peace

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Re: The Art of Peace

Post by Nick_A » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:24 am

Karl Marx The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism
The best way to assure peace is too kill all non socialists. This should be done in as frightening a manner as possible so that others will never want to disturb the peace. Simone Weil wouldn't have lasted long in this environment. The peace lovers would have found some ingenious and horrific ways to dispose of her. Nothing worse than people who disturb the peace.

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Re: The Art of Peace

Post by Walker » Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:07 pm

An oft used method is to change the meaning of words.

For instance, dear Leader has ended all wars and significantly reduced unemployment by changing the meaning of these words.

Thus by definition, peace reigns.

For some who primarily live in concepts, saying so makes it so.

This is how a part-time instructor becomes a Law Professor.

This is how Orwell transcends time.

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Re: The Art of Peace

Post by Walker » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:01 am

The Art of Peace that I practice has room for each of the world’s eight million gods, and I cooperate with them all. The God of Peace is very great and enjoins all that is divine and enlightened in every land.

-The Art of Peace
Morihei Ueshiba

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Re: The Art of Peace

Post by Hobbes' Choice » Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:41 am

Walker wrote:The Art of Peace that I practice has room for each of the world’s eight million gods, and I cooperate with them all. The God of Peace is very great and enjoins all that is divine and enlightened in every land.

-The Art of Peace
Morihei Ueshiba
And you are happy that Shia and Sunni are killing each other.

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Re: The Art of Peace

Post by Hobbes' Choice » Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:44 am

Nick_A wrote:
Karl Marx The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism
The best way to assure peace is too kill all non socialists.
Straw man. Marx is not talking about killing.
He's talking about the natural consequence of capitalism: unrest, exploitation, alienation, and poverty.

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Re: The Art of Peace

Post by Walker » Sun Jun 12, 2016 10:11 pm

Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Walker wrote:The Art of Peace that I practice has room for each of the world’s eight million gods, and I cooperate with them all. The God of Peace is very great and enjoins all that is divine and enlightened in every land.

-The Art of Peace
Morihei Ueshiba
And you are happy that Shia and Sunni are killing each other.
The Philosopher King redefines happy.

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Re: The Art of Peace

Post by uwot » Sun Jun 12, 2016 10:36 pm

Walker wrote:The Philosopher King redefines happy.
Do you have any examples of this actually happening?


Who am I kidding? Of course you don't.

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Re: The Art of Peace

Post by Hobbes' Choice » Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:12 pm

uwot wrote:
Walker wrote:The Philosopher King redefines happy.
Do you have any examples of this actually happening?


Who am I kidding? Of course you don't.
I'm puzzled as to whether he is talking about himself or another.

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Re: The Art of Peace

Post by yiostheoy » Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:29 pm

Nick_A wrote:
Karl Marx The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism
The best way to assure peace is too kill all non socialists. This should be done in as frightening a manner as possible so that others will never want to disturb the peace. Simone Weil wouldn't have lasted long in this environment. The peace lovers would have found some ingenious and horrific ways to dispose of her. Nothing worse than people who disturb the peace.
Nick you seem to be trending towards Machiavelli or Nietzsche it would appear.

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Re: The Art of Peace

Post by Nick_A » Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:06 am

yiostheoy, are you implying that you could be one of those willing to disturb the peace? This is very politically incorrect and inappropriate for sensitive society that doesn't want to be disturbed. Just believe, obey, and pay the bills of your progressive superiors and you will be considered a peace lover by the powers that be and you will be safe.

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Re: The Art of Peace

Post by FlashDangerpants » Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:33 pm

Oh my. Two people with no grasp of nuance and one of them is trying to be all ironic.
This conversation can only end well.
Tag Walker back in for the perfect threesome please.

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Re: The Art of Peace

Post by Nick_A » Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:46 pm

Now we have another with their pants flashing revealing themselves as against peace. Will this hostility ever end?

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Re: The Art of Peace

Post by yiostheoy » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:02 pm

Nick_A wrote:yiostheoy, are you implying that you could be one of those willing to disturb the peace? This is very politically incorrect and inappropriate for sensitive society that doesn't want to be disturbed. Just believe, obey, and pay the bills of your progressive superiors and you will be considered a peace lover by the powers that be and you will be safe.
I love peace. I hate war of any kind. War of words. War in Viet Nam.

I think our generation missed all the good wars -- WW2, US Civil War, Revolutionary War.

All other wars have been really bad.

Viet Nam was the worst. We did not belong there. We should have never gone there. When the French left we should have stayed out.

But Ike, and JFK, and LBJ especially, were all idiots regarding Viet Nam.

Nixon finally got us out of there, but then he blew it all with his own obstruction of justice and interference in a Federal national election.

McArthur botched Korea. Military warfare has been noting but an abortion ever since.

Wars of words are an abortion too.

Unfortunately this particular website forum is a ship of fools who know nothing about Philosophy.

So that means there will be a continuous war of words here with ad hom's and vociferousness and misdirection etc. Straw men. Red herrings.

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Re: The Art of Peace

Post by Walker » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:22 pm

Have you read the link to the source material for the thread? It’s brief.

It concerns the peaceful integration of the life that you are into the inner and outer worlds that you perceive … the good, the bad, and the uggggly worlds.

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Re: The Art of Peace

Post by yiostheoy » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:23 pm

Walker wrote:Have you read the link to the source material for the thread? It’s brief.

It concerns the peaceful integration of the life that you are into the inner and outer worlds that you perceive … the good, the bad, and the uggggly worlds.
I did not see a link.

I only saw a comment in the O/P related to Teaching Theory.

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