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Re: The Virtue of Altruism

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RCSaunders wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 1:59 am
No, that's what you want to argue. You want to believe there are perfectly normal human being who are so mentally defective they cannot learn all they need to learn, and think well enough to understand what is and is not true, and to make their own choices to live successfully. If a being really is that mentally defective, they are not fully human and would not even be able to survive on their own.

You must view the vast majority of human beings as being mentally deficient, since most of what most people believe is not true. There is a reason why most people choose to be gullible and, "brainwashed," by their ideologies: "Ideology: Hatred Of Reality."
There you go again.

If a person is defined as 'mentally [cognitive] deficient' he will not be capable of being brainwashed.
A person who is capable of being brainwashed need to have reasonable IQ brain to for his brain be "washed" by destabilizing his emotional state. Note the suicide bomber in the OP was highly educated and was enrolling into a Masters Degree.

The point is people choose to join various organizations for various purposes but they do not "choose" [making moral choices] to be brainwashed [something negative] to the extent of being a suicide bomber.
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Re: The Virtue of Altruism

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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 5:34 am
RCSaunders wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 1:59 am
No, that's what you want to argue. You want to believe there are perfectly normal human being who are so mentally defective they cannot learn all they need to learn, and think well enough to understand what is and is not true, and to make their own choices to live successfully. If a being really is that mentally defective, they are not fully human and would not even be able to survive on their own.

You must view the vast majority of human beings as being mentally deficient, since most of what most people believe is not true. There is a reason why most people choose to be gullible and, "brainwashed," by their ideologies: "Ideology: Hatred Of Reality."
There you go again.

If a person is defined as 'mentally [cognitive] deficient' he will not be capable of being brainwashed.
A person who is capable of being brainwashed need to have reasonable IQ brain to for his brain be "washed" by destabilizing his emotional state. Note the suicide bomber in the OP was highly educated and was enrolling into a Masters Degree.

The point is people choose to join various organizations for various purposes but they do not "choose" [making moral choices] to be brainwashed [something negative] to the extent of being a suicide bomber.
So, what was the difference between the woman who chose to blow herself and as many others as she could to smitherines, and all the rest of the women in that same school who didn't? All the others were under the same influences. The woman who blew herself up either had a mental defect the others didn't have or chose what she did for her own reasons which others did not choose.

"Highly educated," actually is, "brainwashed," by the way.
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Re: The Virtue of Altruism

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RCSaunders wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 1:10 pm No doctrine has ever been responsible for more evil than the doctrine of altruism.

Here is pure altruism put into practice:
The husband of the woman who blew herself up at Karachi University in Pakistan said her selfless act has left him speechless but he is proud of what she did.
On Tuesday, an explosion took place near Confucius Institute — a Chinese language teaching centre at Karachi University.
Talking about the first ‘Baloch woman to carry out a suicide attack’, Afghan journalist Gwakh informed that the Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA) said the 30-year-old joined the group two years ago and volunteered herself for a “self-sacrificing mission”.
That's pure unselfish altruism in action. Such total dedication to sacrificing oneself to one's ideology must be admired. Its results:
In an explosion, at least four people, including three Chinese citizens, were killed and several others were injured.
No doubt the four killed were selfish egoists who only wanted to live and enjoy their lives--but the unselfish altruist eliminated them from the world. Thank Allah!
right those people were killed because they weren't like you, correct? there's no virtue in that at all. Muslims won't live and let live because there god of death god "allah" says so, is moronic at best. now if you want to go to war toe to toe, soldier to soldier, at the least that is honest warfare but to attack none combatants and call it heroism, WOW you are an idiot. you've been taught to give your life so others might fear your leadership or your people, and nothing more.
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Re: The Virtue of Altruism

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DPMartin wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 4:36 pm
RCSaunders wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 1:10 pm No doctrine has ever been responsible for more evil than the doctrine of altruism.

Here is pure altruism put into practice:
The husband of the woman who blew herself up at Karachi University in Pakistan said her selfless act has left him speechless but he is proud of what she did.
On Tuesday, an explosion took place near Confucius Institute — a Chinese language teaching centre at Karachi University.
Talking about the first ‘Baloch woman to carry out a suicide attack’, Afghan journalist Gwakh informed that the Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA) said the 30-year-old joined the group two years ago and volunteered herself for a “self-sacrificing mission”.
That's pure unselfish altruism in action. Such total dedication to sacrificing oneself to one's ideology must be admired. Its results:
In an explosion, at least four people, including three Chinese citizens, were killed and several others were injured.
No doubt the four killed were selfish egoists who only wanted to live and enjoy their lives--but the unselfish altruist eliminated them from the world. Thank Allah!
right those people were killed because they weren't like you, correct? there's no virtue in that at all. Muslims won't live and let live because there god of death god "allah" says so, is moronic at best. now if you want to go to war toe to toe, soldier to soldier, at the least that is honest warfare but to attack none combatants and call it heroism, WOW you are an idiot. you've been taught to give your life so others might fear your leadership or your people, and nothing more.
Good grief! It was satire. You think I'm a Muslim? Perhaps you better have a look here.
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Re: The Virtue of Altruism

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RCSaunders wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 1:09 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 5:34 am
RCSaunders wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 1:59 am
No, that's what you want to argue. You want to believe there are perfectly normal human being who are so mentally defective they cannot learn all they need to learn, and think well enough to understand what is and is not true, and to make their own choices to live successfully. If a being really is that mentally defective, they are not fully human and would not even be able to survive on their own.

You must view the vast majority of human beings as being mentally deficient, since most of what most people believe is not true. There is a reason why most people choose to be gullible and, "brainwashed," by their ideologies: "Ideology: Hatred Of Reality."
There you go again.

If a person is defined as 'mentally [cognitive] deficient' he will not be capable of being brainwashed.
A person who is capable of being brainwashed need to have reasonable IQ brain to for his brain be "washed" by destabilizing his emotional state. Note the suicide bomber in the OP was highly educated and was enrolling into a Masters Degree.

The point is people choose to join various organizations for various purposes but they do not "choose" [making moral choices] to be brainwashed [something negative] to the extent of being a suicide bomber.
So, what was the difference between the woman who chose to blow herself and as many others as she could to smitherines, and all the rest of the women in that same school who didn't? All the others were under the same influences. The woman who blew herself up either had a mental defect the others didn't have or chose what she did for her own reasons which others did not choose.

"Highly educated," actually is, "brainwashed," by the way.
I have stated there is only a small percentile of people who are emotional vulnerable to be brainwashed to do those sorts of extreme acts.
As such that suicide bomber had some sort of mental weakness, i.e. emotional weakness that the abusers could exploit.
It is the sort of low emotional threshold that can be activated for one to be triggered to be a suicide bomber.

She did not join a school [education] to be a suicide bomber but rather is a member of a Pakistani separatist group. Her enrolment into a Masters Program in a Uni is a separate issue.

Btw, have you ever heard of subliminal advertising. This is where advertisers are influencing customers with subliminal message [not explicit advertising] to 'choose' to buy their product. A customer will think he had deliberately 'chosen' product X over Y but is not aware he had been brainwashed subliminally. This sort of subliminal advertising has been banned but advertisers will find various ways to get away with that law.
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Re: The Virtue of Altruism

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RCSaunders wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 9:00 pm
DPMartin wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 4:36 pm
RCSaunders wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 1:10 pm No doctrine has ever been responsible for more evil than the doctrine of altruism.

Here is pure altruism put into practice:






That's pure unselfish altruism in action. Such total dedication to sacrificing oneself to one's ideology must be admired. Its results:



No doubt the four killed were selfish egoists who only wanted to live and enjoy their lives--but the unselfish altruist eliminated them from the world. Thank Allah!
right those people were killed because they weren't like you, correct? there's no virtue in that at all. Muslims won't live and let live because there god of death god "allah" says so, is moronic at best. now if you want to go to war toe to toe, soldier to soldier, at the least that is honest warfare but to attack none combatants and call it heroism, WOW you are an idiot. you've been taught to give your life so others might fear your leadership or your people, and nothing more.
Good grief! It was satire. You think I'm a Muslim? Perhaps you better have a look here.
i don't know you, and if it looks and sounds like one then............
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Re: The Virtue of Altruism

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DPMartin wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 3:32 pm i don't know you, and if it looks and sounds like one then............
It looked to me, and clearly, like he was criticizing Islam. And not a little.

Read sentence one, attributing evil to altruism, then look at the acts of altruism that he is obviously considering evil in satiric form. Even without the first sentence the sarcasm of the title of the thread, given the examples, and how they are talked about is clear. But the first sentence does not imply or hint, it right out states.
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Re: The Virtue of Altruism

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Iwannaplato wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 4:19 pm
DPMartin wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 3:32 pm i don't know you, and if it looks and sounds like one then............
It looked to me, and clearly, like he was criticizing Islam. And not a little.

Read sentence one, attributing evil to altruism, then look at the acts of altruism that he is obviously considering evil in satiric form. Even without the first sentence the sarcasm of the title of the thread, given the examples, and how they are talked about is clear. But the first sentence does not imply or hint, it right out states.
i'm over it, move on
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Re: The Virtue of Altruism

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DPMartin wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 9:37 pm i'm over it, move on
Glad you're over it, now I know, and I will move on.
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Re: The Virtue of Altruism

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Iwannaplato wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 6:51 am
DPMartin wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 9:37 pm i'm over it, move on
Glad you're over it, now I know, and I will move on.
you're okey there Iwannaplato, i don't care what they say about you.
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Re: The Virtue of Altruism

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Altruism science, relative to meta:

Of the war, between living and non-living matter, the secret progression path (Megan Fox's path, to me) is magic attacking reality, having reality thus create the blame magic, for magic to then appropriate.
This dynamic, using the altruism of reality's physics, is an algorithm of self-appropriation through self-annihilation; essentially, it's one in which non-living matter (sunlight, trees, money, digital transactions, weekend meta, the atoms of capitalism, the algorithm's of socialism etc) mustn't be tricked into using socialism back towards living matter.

Of body glamour's apparent bias morality, responsibility to idea history, the selections of the atoms of capitalism and digital transactions as Danny Roman's vortex, The Generic Idea's Resistance To The Monopoly campaign, are no rival, to The Idea As Resistance science, consisting of the stories of rebellions, such as the shapes of digital transaction, in the financial sector, or metamorphosis using the shapes of animal life.

About the latter selection, metamorphosis using the shapes of animal life: the conventional logic, is that metamorphosis is at one with the animal life, however, the presumed proof system of the proposed story of rebellion is that the shape construct has acted as a middle man for the other two elements.

Along the virtue of altruism sector, of the national art community's left-wing transcendence-daylight-creation-of-socialism-to-physics-free-of-living-matter's-absence-of-body-glamour-dependency-as-body-glamour's-means-of-demonic-interference, i.e. the reliance on morality reboot as symmetry behaviour from deities' distillation of personality syndromes into text matter for later separation via the pendulum structures of the reality universe, the going for a walk free of nationalism behaviour of Megan Fox and Thomas Heath (the Megan Fox of the bulk, in the kitchen in Jennifer's Body) is a game over, to the internet research dichotomy of Philosophy Now is to the right, and Able2Know is to the left.

To the left, and to the right, of internet sites:
It's a meta direction system, which may only be a pertinence to one person, due to that person's indecipherable possession of ingenuity construct vs ingenuity. Or, in other words, the pendulum of oneness has given me a unique invisible visual dichotomy, which it would want me to project onto trees using no atoms of capitalism, or no algebra physics conspiring with body glamour to uphold the magic tension release from data publication's belief in national spontaneity sex using the abstract body glamour paradigm, or project onto the mystery nature's abstract sequence story lie to Samantha Worzeil and Mason Dertry, and Terry Howletrax, in reference to the trio's quantification of personality sociology away from their 11 New Street reality, or project onto the haunted house's deconstruction through science story (which involves Christina Ricci's Kathleen), relative to the deconstruction through science story's invisible visual word analysis sector being a Meaning Of Life.

Overall, the day to day rival, of pendulum side to side being a day to day manifestation, protecting God's waiting for theology discussions from Mary Heath to Thomas Heath, as a secret capitalist owner of the waiting, is permitted by me to sustain the secret capitalist ownership, using my apathy to demon slots in my mind as a socialism force that's identical in analysis constitution to body glamour's aforementioned "uphold the magic tension release from data publication's belief in national spontaneity sex using the abstract body glamour paradigm" (by Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford as well)



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Re: The Virtue of Altruism

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RCSaunders wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 1:10 pm No doctrine has ever been responsible for more evil than the doctrine of altruism.

Here is pure altruism put into practice:
The husband of the woman who blew herself up at Karachi University in Pakistan said her selfless act has left him speechless but he is proud of what she did.
On Tuesday, an explosion took place near Confucius Institute — a Chinese language teaching centre at Karachi University.
Talking about the first ‘Baloch woman to carry out a suicide attack’, Afghan journalist Gwakh informed that the Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA) said the 30-year-old joined the group two years ago and volunteered herself for a “self-sacrificing mission”.
That's pure unselfish altruism in action. Such total dedication to sacrificing oneself to one's ideology must be admired. Its results:
In an explosion, at least four people, including three Chinese citizens, were killed and several others were injured.
No doubt the four killed were selfish egoists who only wanted to live and enjoy their lives--but the unselfish altruist eliminated them from the world. Thank Allah!
You cannot have an intelligent dialogue about altruism when you mix it up with religious insanity, it just doesn't wash, its abnormal psychology, religion is always on the edge of mental illness. I think it was Voltaire who stated those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
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