Massive Mass Reparations for African-Americans

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Re: Massive Mass Reparations for African-Americans

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Walker wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:10 am
Here is a true American
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ea-reVDTdI
Is that like a 'true Scotsman'?
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:00 am
Walker wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:10 am
Here is a true American
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ea-reVDTdI
Is that like a 'true Scotsman'?
That led to an interesting read …

Like but less limited than the tiny isles in the sense that like freedom, to be an American is a state of mind with certain characteristics antithetical to slavery that caused the first civil war in the country. The state of mind doesn’t appeal to all, but it embraced that politician from NC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4c8xLZXUVg
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[quote=Walker post_id=508495 time=1619154636 user_id=11599]
Reparations is all about victim mentality.

Here is a true American, i.e., one who refuses to be a victim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ea-reVDTdI
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When he starts talking about "my people", he's proving he's Not an American, but an African who happens to be in America. He can't work for other American's best interests when he's so full of ego as to believe a) his personal history is relevant to anything broadly political b) group identity is meaningful c) government committees are positive.
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Walker wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:12 pm If the reparations be massive enough, look forward to race-identification piggy-backing on the current legitimacy of arbitrary sex-identification. Given the way folks have been misbehaving of late, it's reasonable to figure that anyone willing to sell their heritage for a few pieces of silver would jump at compensation to arbitrarily change race-identification to fit the fad, then change it back for whatever reason, or perhaps even change it to some other identification ... all reasons being legitimate just because they exist as reasons in the world of secular relativism.
Is there a name for the fallacy here? You are against reparations because you think - on the basis of nothing in particular - that white people will proclaim themselves en masse as black to get on that reparation bandwagon. In any case, this would be more a matter of ancestry than identity.

If you had read my message, you would also see a link to a rather plausible suggestion of how reparation might actually be done given a set of vast uncertainties about who might and might not be a deserving recipient. Robert Nozick proposal would not depend on how people self-id.

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Precisely how much are these "reparations?" What is the dollar equivalent for the "oppression of the past"? Let's pay it, and be done.

And to whom will we make out the cheque? Which persons qualify, and why, and from whom can they rightfully demand to collect it? How much does each deserve? Let's cut them a cheque, and move on.

But if there are no answers to the above questions, then why is that?

If there is no amount that can buy out the sins of the past, then what's the rationale for paying anything?

And if there is nobody currently who can agree to the amount, and nobody to deliver it to, then paying is impossible anyway.

Either way, what choice is there but to move on?
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[quote="Immanuel Can" post_id=508539 time=1619187551 user_id=9431]
Either way, what choice is there but to move on?
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Apparently the third choice is to continue arguing about a logically settled issue.
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Would reparations be paid to Dave Matthews and Charlize Theron?

Theron’s wiki page must have been written by her publicist, but even so, I didn’t know about her “bootstrapping” history.

She’s a real American*, although ignorant of the constitutional fidelity that made the United States the greatest country on the face of the earth.



* as a survivor/thriver, she is aware of Hollywood politics, for her advantage.
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ReverendGrandmother wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:42 pm- on the basis of nothing in particular - that white people will proclaim themselves en masse as black to get on that reparation bandwagon.
Be fair, Granny. The basis you ignore is the current trend in a grasping, lying, cheating, money-printing future-robbing culture exhibited by the current POTUS and on down the food chain all the way to a founder of socialist BLM with the multiple high-ticket homes and such; plus, no one mentioned en masse but you.
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