I agree that there can be no absolute truth.psycho wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:29 pmFor me, the use of the concept "truth" just confuses things.Janoah wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:29 pmThank you for the recognition about Chopin!
I will be grateful for the recognition, if you deem it correct, what I will say now.
So, scientific or "factual" truth consists in the correspondence of the mental representation of something to what exists in external reality.
For example, the mental picture that a tree is growing behind the house is true if a tree actually grows behind the house.
Regarding the nocturne, the melody could come spontaneously, without any idea of external reality.
Therefore, I say that the truth of art is different from scientific, factual truth.
(To make it clear, I do not believe in the "supernatural" transcendent, and I propose to define the truth in art in scientific language.)
In my case, my opinion is more extreme because I do not think that the absolute truth is something accessible to humans.
We only get to know approximations.
I share with you that a concept must have an effective correspondence with what it describes about reality.
I do not share with you that something called scientific truth exists. Science does not make claims about the truth.
In my opinion, the "truth" in Chopin's art is found in the effectiveness of his product to generate in his listeners the mental states that they enjoy so much.
After all, the truth, in any case, is "correspondence", and correspondence cannot be absolute in nature.
But the correspondence may be more, or less appropriate.
Therefore, we can talk about more, or less true.
Art can generate in his listeners the mental states that they enjoy so much.
But the crowd can also like the vulgar.
So what is the truts in art, what makes art more true?
In my opinion, the truth in art, it is "internal", the upright in heart. As said, "and gladness for the upright in heart" (Psalm 97)
It is interesting that a person is so arranged that if he is the upright in heart, he can feel the upright in heart of another, and this is what is relevant for art.