QuantumT wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 6:08 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 4:46 am
I would say that to say there is no art and beauty is self defeating because you must have an idea as to what it is in the first place before you can say it doesn't exist and ideas do exist in the mind where it counts the most so it doesn't matter if art and beauty have an actual physical existence or not as that would be irrelevant. The fact that art and beauty coincide for many people is a happy coincidence.

PhilX
So it exists the same way as Donald Duck, kinda
Any 'thing' (object) that can be 'thought' about (imagined) exists, as the 'thought' dictates.
''thought'' superimposes a 'thing' upon the imageless screen of Consciousness...prior to 'thought' there is no 'thing' here/there...just this silent not-knowing present Consciousness without doubt or error, manifesting all at once without division as this direct(unknown knowing)
''Thought'' separates, albeit illusory, since there is no 'thing' thinking ..all 'thinkers' are invisible 'thoughts' empty to the core, magically appearing as full...aka as ''some thing'' ... This is a magic show, the trickless trick of Imageless Consciousness appearing as an image..to itself only, there is no other Consciousness.
Does a 'human person' exist? Yes, as a 'thought' (imaged)
Same goes for a 'unicorn', a 'unicorn' exists as a 'thought' (imaged)
'Art' and 'Beauty' are 'thoughts' too..so they exist as 'thoughts'.
There is no difference between one 'thought' and another 'thought' because all 'thoughts' are sourced in the same Imageless Consciousness only appearing as difference where there is none...because it's all the same Consciousness creating the appearance of difference.
Consciousness is unknowable even to itself because it's only and ever one with itself always...there is nothing in or outside of Consciousness that is not more Consciousness ..therefore it cannot get a peek up it's own skirt no more than the eyeball can look itself...there is only seamless Consciousness, no edge or boundary, boundlessly free infinitely and totally groundless empty to the core like the sky. A 'human person'' therefore, is literally made out of the exact same thing which it is standing in..aka empty sky which is not a thing..the paradox of thought, is the magic trick of Consciousness itself.
In truth there is no actual conceptual thing in and of itself existing independant of Consciousness because reality is all the same Imageless Consciousness projecting itself as imagined/imaged.
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