To what extent would you say there is a symbiosis between the artists and their patrons?
Would you regard this as necessary for the artists or can they develop their craft without a symbiosis? What would lead to a symbiosis in the first place?
PhilX
Symbiosis between the artists and their patrons
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Re: Symbiosis between the artists and their patrons
I heard a phrase in a movie that was similar to this: "The artist has no control over what he/she sees as "art" but only the choice to keep going. An artist is only considered good if someone else tells them they are good...other than that they just have to "be" who they are."Philosophy Explorer wrote: โWed Oct 18, 2017 1:37 pm To what extent would you say there is a symbiosis between the artists and their patrons?
Would you regard this as necessary for the artists or can they develop their craft without a symbiosis? What would lead to a symbiosis in the first place?
PhilX
I think that sums it up.
Re: Symbiosis between the artists and their patrons
Well said!Eodnhoj7 wrote: โSun Nov 05, 2017 2:05 amI heard a phrase in a movie that was similar to this: "The artist has no control over what he/she sees as "art" but only the choice to keep going. An artist is only considered good if someone else tells them they are good...other than that they just have to "be" who they are."Philosophy Explorer wrote: โWed Oct 18, 2017 1:37 pm To what extent would you say there is a symbiosis between the artists and their patrons?
Would you regard this as necessary for the artists or can they develop their craft without a symbiosis? What would lead to a symbiosis in the first place?
PhilX
I think that sums it up.
Re: Symbiosis between the artists and their patrons
...so I guess Van Gogh wasn't any good until shortly after he croaked!Eodnhoj7 wrote: โSun Nov 05, 2017 2:05 amI heard a phrase in a movie that was similar to this: "The artist has no control over what he/she sees as "art" but only the choice to keep going. An artist is only considered good if someone else tells them they are good...other than that they just have to "be" who they are."Philosophy Explorer wrote: โWed Oct 18, 2017 1:37 pm To what extent would you say there is a symbiosis between the artists and their patrons?
Would you regard this as necessary for the artists or can they develop their craft without a symbiosis? What would lead to a symbiosis in the first place?
PhilX
I think that sums it up.
Re: Symbiosis between the artists and their patrons
Viveka wrote: โSun Nov 05, 2017 4:17 amWell said!Eodnhoj7 wrote: โSun Nov 05, 2017 2:05 amI heard a phrase in a movie that was similar to this: "The artist has no control over what he/she sees as "art" but only the choice to keep going. An artist is only considered good if someone else tells them they are good...other than that they just have to "be" who they are."Philosophy Explorer wrote: โWed Oct 18, 2017 1:37 pm To what extent would you say there is a symbiosis between the artists and their patrons?
Would you regard this as necessary for the artists or can they develop their craft without a symbiosis? What would lead to a symbiosis in the first place?
PhilX
I think that sums it up.
The movies was "Carol" if I remember correctly.
Re: Symbiosis between the artists and their patrons
Unfortunately...yeah...an artist has to be an artist...whether he is accepted or not is not up to him...all he can do is keep going.Dubious wrote: โSun Nov 05, 2017 8:50 am...so I guess Van Gogh wasn't any good until shortly after he croaked!Eodnhoj7 wrote: โSun Nov 05, 2017 2:05 amI heard a phrase in a movie that was similar to this: "The artist has no control over what he/she sees as "art" but only the choice to keep going. An artist is only considered good if someone else tells them they are good...other than that they just have to "be" who they are."Philosophy Explorer wrote: โWed Oct 18, 2017 1:37 pm To what extent would you say there is a symbiosis between the artists and their patrons?
Would you regard this as necessary for the artists or can they develop their craft without a symbiosis? What would lead to a symbiosis in the first place?
PhilX
I think that sums it up.