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Symbiosis between the artists and their patrons

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:37 pm

To what extent would you say there is a symbiosis between the artists and their patrons?

Would you regard this as necessary for the artists or can they develop their craft without a symbiosis? What would lead to a symbiosis in the first place?

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Re: Symbiosis between the artists and their patrons

Post by Eodnhoj7 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:05 am

Philosophy Explorer wrote: โ†‘
Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:37 pm
To what extent would you say there is a symbiosis between the artists and their patrons?

Would you regard this as necessary for the artists or can they develop their craft without a symbiosis? What would lead to a symbiosis in the first place?

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I heard a phrase in a movie that was similar to this: "The artist has no control over what he/she sees as "art" but only the choice to keep going. An artist is only considered good if someone else tells them they are good...other than that they just have to "be" who they are."

I think that sums it up.

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Re: Symbiosis between the artists and their patrons

Post by Viveka » Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:17 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: โ†‘
Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:05 am
Philosophy Explorer wrote: โ†‘
Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:37 pm
To what extent would you say there is a symbiosis between the artists and their patrons?

Would you regard this as necessary for the artists or can they develop their craft without a symbiosis? What would lead to a symbiosis in the first place?

PhilX ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
I heard a phrase in a movie that was similar to this: "The artist has no control over what he/she sees as "art" but only the choice to keep going. An artist is only considered good if someone else tells them they are good...other than that they just have to "be" who they are."

I think that sums it up.
Well said!

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Re: Symbiosis between the artists and their patrons

Post by Dubious » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:50 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: โ†‘
Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:05 am
Philosophy Explorer wrote: โ†‘
Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:37 pm
To what extent would you say there is a symbiosis between the artists and their patrons?

Would you regard this as necessary for the artists or can they develop their craft without a symbiosis? What would lead to a symbiosis in the first place?

PhilX ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
I heard a phrase in a movie that was similar to this: "The artist has no control over what he/she sees as "art" but only the choice to keep going. An artist is only considered good if someone else tells them they are good...other than that they just have to "be" who they are."

I think that sums it up.
...so I guess Van Gogh wasn't any good until shortly after he croaked!

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Re: Symbiosis between the artists and their patrons

Post by Eodnhoj7 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:55 pm

Viveka wrote: โ†‘
Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:17 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: โ†‘
Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:05 am
Philosophy Explorer wrote: โ†‘
Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:37 pm
To what extent would you say there is a symbiosis between the artists and their patrons?

Would you regard this as necessary for the artists or can they develop their craft without a symbiosis? What would lead to a symbiosis in the first place?

PhilX ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
I heard a phrase in a movie that was similar to this: "The artist has no control over what he/she sees as "art" but only the choice to keep going. An artist is only considered good if someone else tells them they are good...other than that they just have to "be" who they are."

I think that sums it up.
Well said!

The movies was "Carol" if I remember correctly.

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Re: Symbiosis between the artists and their patrons

Post by Eodnhoj7 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:56 pm

Dubious wrote: โ†‘
Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:50 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: โ†‘
Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:05 am
Philosophy Explorer wrote: โ†‘
Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:37 pm
To what extent would you say there is a symbiosis between the artists and their patrons?

Would you regard this as necessary for the artists or can they develop their craft without a symbiosis? What would lead to a symbiosis in the first place?

PhilX ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
I heard a phrase in a movie that was similar to this: "The artist has no control over what he/she sees as "art" but only the choice to keep going. An artist is only considered good if someone else tells them they are good...other than that they just have to "be" who they are."

I think that sums it up.
...so I guess Van Gogh wasn't any good until shortly after he croaked!
Unfortunately...yeah...an artist has to be an artist...whether he is accepted or not is not up to him...all he can do is keep going.

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