Artist
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:07 pm
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Re: Artist
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:11 pm
Are we to feel heart tugs or something because of the age difference?
Re: Artist
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:14 pm
The second photo is an artist miminking the position of the dead child
Re: Artist
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:11 am
Yes. You didn't answer my question. The artist was once a boy too. Or, if you see time as "all at once", still is. Does the age difference somehow matter? What is the artist trying to say? That he somehow empathizes with the boy? Because he can't. The boy no longer has any more problems or suffering. The artist, does. But the artist is trying to have us believe that the roles are reversed; that the boy suffers for his own discontinuance, whilst the artist is in a better position for being alive, though he truly still can suffer for it.Pluto wrote:The second photo is an artist miminking the position of the dead child
Re: Artist
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:55 am
Dalek Prime wrote:Yes. You didn't answer my question. The artist was once a boy too. Or, if you see time as "all at once", still is. Does the age difference somehow matter? What is the artist trying to say? That he somehow empathizes with the boy? Because he can't. The boy no longer has any more problems or suffering. The artist, does. Honest phen375 reviews http://ohdivinehealth.com/phen375-reviews/ . But the artist is trying to have us believe that the roles are reversed; that the boy suffers for his own discontinuance, whilst the artist is in a better position for being alive, though he truly still can suffer for it.Pluto wrote:The second photo is an artist miminking the position of the dead child
majority of artists uses a subject to express a more deeper message. regardless of the age or the situations, they use a specific subject to emphasize more what they think or what they believe. if the boy on the photo is lying like a breathless human body, it might have a deeper meaning to the artist. artists are very passionate on their craft. they don't just use their lenses just to take photos but they to capture such emotions.
Re: Artist
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:33 pm
Some believe the artist a kind of marketing man where he latches on to emotive episodes to garner more recognition for himself. But that is too cynical a position maybe. The artist wants to engage directly with current episodes in life, he went to the island of Kos to help. Buy photographing himself in the position of the drowned boy, what good does it do in general? It only perhaps promotes the artist and his work.
Re: Artist
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:51 pm
Emotions are not captured on film. It is the observer who originates them. Granted, they can try to provoke emotion, but even to the same observer, the feeling will likely be slightly different each time.Healf1995 wrote:Dalek Prime wrote:Yes. You didn't answer my question. The artist was once a boy too. Or, if you see time as "all at once", still is. Does the age difference somehow matter? What is the artist trying to say? That he somehow empathizes with the boy? Because he can't. The boy no longer has any more problems or suffering. The artist, does. But the artist is trying to have us believe that the roles are reversed; that the boy suffers for his own discontinuance, whilst the artist is in a better position for being alive, though he truly still can suffer for it.Pluto wrote:The second photo is an artist miminking the position of the dead child
majority of artists uses a subject to express a more deeper message. regardless of the age or the situations, they use a specific subject to emphasize more what they think or what they believe. if the boy on the photo is lying like a breathless human body, it might have a deeper meaning to the artist. artists are very passionate on their craft. they don't just use their lenses just to take photos but they to capture such emotions.
Re: Artist
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:38 am
I really hate being manipulated. If the photographer was genuine, he would have sent it straight to Dubya Bush, the child's murderer, instead of trying to give us all a guilt trip.
Re: Artist
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:37 am
Artists must do what they do. Some we enjoy, some we don't. Not my cuppa, but that means little.
PS. Your retirement is right up there with John Farnham's!
* for non Australians https://www.google.com.au/#q=john+farnham+retirement ... note the dates of the news articles ... can't keep a good man down, eh?
This reminds me of Dumbledore's ghost near the end of the Harry Potter series. He said, "Do not pity the dead, Harry. Pity the living ..."Dalek Prime wrote:... The boy no longer has any more problems or suffering. The artist, does. But the artist is trying to have us believe that the roles are reversed; that the boy suffers for his own discontinuance, whilst the artist is in a better position for being alive, though he truly still can suffer for it.
PS. Your retirement is right up there with John Farnham's!
* for non Australians https://www.google.com.au/#q=john+farnham+retirement ... note the dates of the news articles ... can't keep a good man down, eh?
Re: Artist
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:56 am
Pluto wrote:aylan[1].jpg
wei-copy[1].jpg
I note "wei" in the filename.
I'm assuming that the artist is Ai Weiwei?
I think, given his wealth he cold have done a better job of it, by choosing a beach that looks like the original and chosen clothes and colour photography to make the point more clear.
Otherwise - without the juxtaposition - its just an old drunk on the beach. And that represents self infliction, not victimhood.
Thus: epic fail
Re: Artist
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:20 pm
Now he has stuck rubber boat on wall in Italy. People not happy.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europ ... SKCN11R2KC
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europ ... SKCN11R2KC
Re: Artist
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:26 am
How about some context? A question? Something . . . Otherwise I don't know why you're posting two photos with no text aside from a subject line that says "Artist".Pluto wrote:aylan[1].jpg
wei-copy[1].jpg
Later edit: Ah, I found something that gives some context:
http://www.pappaspost.com/chinese-artis ... -a-moment/
So what about it? Do you have a question about this?
Re: Artist
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:37 am
What about this one?
http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article ... ashore.jpg
http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article ... ashore.jpg
Re: Artist
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:41 am
I think this one says more about Aylan.
Where a kid should be when he is lying like that, and the glass of water also in its right place.
This unknown artist has achieved more with a canvas than Wei-Wei with his self indulgent photo.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/42Ydkxk9mTA/maxresdefault.jpg
Where a kid should be when he is lying like that, and the glass of water also in its right place.
This unknown artist has achieved more with a canvas than Wei-Wei with his self indulgent photo.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/42Ydkxk9mTA/maxresdefault.jpg
Re: Artist
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:05 pm
Very sad. A lot of children like to sleep like that.Hobbes' Choice wrote:I think this one says more about Aylan.
Where a kid should be when he is lying like that, and the glass of water also in its right place.
This unknown artist has achieved more with a canvas than Wei-Wei with his self indulgent photo.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/42Ydkxk9mTA/maxresdefault.jpg