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Can art be repulsive?

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:26 am

Typically art is attractive, often eye pleasing. Now I'm looking at it from the other side of the coin. Can it be repulsive and yet, have desirable qualities?

What do you think?

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Re: Can art be repulsive?

Post by HexHammer » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:10 pm

When you ask such question, it's just evidence that you don't go much outside, and seems like a sheltered person, that needs very simple things explained and spelled out, because you are so unimaginable stupid and completely retarded.

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Re: Can art be repulsive?

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:29 pm

HexHammer wrote:When you ask such question, it's just evidence that you don't go much outside, and seems like a sheltered person, that needs very simple things explained and spelled out, because you are so unimaginable stupid and completely retarded.
You have not answered the question with your retarded, unintelligent post.

I have something for you to help you out at the library:

http://www.businessinsider.com/video-ga ... its-2015-9

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Re: Can art be repulsive?

Post by White Sky » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:58 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote:Typically art is attractive, often eye pleasing. Now I'm looking at it from the other side of the coin. Can it be repulsive and yet, have desirable qualities?

What do you think?

PhilX
Art can definitely be disturbing, shocking and/or unsettling. Francis Bacon's paintings, Artaud and Marlowe's plays, and the film The Texas Chainsaw Massacre come to mind. However, if the art crosses into being literallly repulsive--and not just to a few perceivers--it fails to be either beautiful or sublime...just viscerally offensive.

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Re: Can art be repulsive?

Post by HexHammer » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:40 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote:
HexHammer wrote:When you ask such question, it's just evidence that you don't go much outside, and seems like a sheltered person, that needs very simple things explained and spelled out, because you are so unimaginable stupid and completely retarded.
You have not answered the question with your retarded, unintelligent post.

I have something for you to help you out at the library:

http://www.businessinsider.com/video-ga ... its-2015-9

PhilX
Nor do you ever answer any of my question, but dodges them because you are too stupid to answer, let's try again.

What relevance do correct spelling have? ..why don't you fuck off and go back to the forum from where you came?

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Re: Can art be repulsive?

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:53 pm

HexHammer wrote:
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
HexHammer wrote:When you ask such question, it's just evidence that you don't go much outside, and seems like a sheltered person, that needs very simple things explained and spelled out, because you are so unimaginable stupid and completely retarded.
You have not answered the question with your retarded, unintelligent post.

I have something for you to help you out at the library:

http://www.businessinsider.com/video-ga ... its-2015-9

PhilX
Nor do you ever answer any of my question, but dodges them because you are too stupid to answer, let's try again.

What relevance do correct spelling have? ..why don't you fuck off and go back to the forum from where you came?
When you ask about the relevance of correct spelling retard, you show two things: disrespect for the person you're trying to communicate with and disrespect for yourself. Spelling is part of grammar and the meaning of sentences become unclear and even changed so that you fail to communicate. Now why don't you fuck off and go back to the forum you came from? Oh yes that's right tard of tards, that's because Scott BANNED you from OPC. BANNED YOU. And you're taking out your frustrations on the good members over here with your babble and spam.
That's why.

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Re: Can art be repulsive?

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:57 pm

White Sky wrote:
Philosophy Explorer wrote:Typically art is attractive, often eye pleasing. Now I'm looking at it from the other side of the coin. Can it be repulsive and yet, have desirable qualities?

What do you think?

PhilX
Art can definitely be disturbing, shocking and/or unsettling. Francis Bacon's paintings, Artaud and Marlowe's plays, and the film The Texas Chainsaw Massacre come to mind. However, if the art crosses into being literallly repulsive--and not just to a few perceivers--it fails to be either beautiful or sublime...just viscerally offensive.
Do you think Alfred Hitchcock falls into this genre? (The Birds comes to mind)

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Re: Can art be repulsive?

Post by White Sky » Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:07 pm

Yes, Hitchcock definitely falls in the disturbing, shocking, and /or unsettling...but not the repulsive. And while The Birds is definitely an example, I would say Psycho is even moreso. He literally bragged he was ending the 50's with the film and helped do so by perverting the "family as center" theme of the 50's, killing off a major 50's star in the first 15 minutes, and doing so in a violent fashion threatening our most vulnerable domestic space--the shower.

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Re: Can art be repulsive?

Post by HexHammer » Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:54 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote:When you ask about the relevance of correct spelling retard, you show two things: disrespect for the person you're trying to communicate with and disrespect for yourself. Spelling is part of grammar and the meaning of sentences become unclear and even changed so that you fail to communicate. Now why don't you fuck off and go back to the forum you came from? Oh yes that's right tard of tards, that's because Scott BANNED you from OPC. BANNED YOU. And you're taking out your frustrations on the good members over here with your babble and spam.
That's why.

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When english isn't my first language, then I show disrespect? ..that's the most retarded statement you have made so far, only showing how utterly stupid you are!!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Can art be repulsive?

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:05 pm

HexHammer wrote:
Philosophy Explorer wrote:When you ask about the relevance of correct spelling retard, you show two things: disrespect for the person you're trying to communicate with and disrespect for yourself. Spelling is part of grammar and the meaning of sentences become unclear and even changed so that you fail to communicate. Now why don't you fuck off and go back to the forum you came from? Oh yes that's right tard of tards, that's because Scott BANNED you from OPC. BANNED YOU. And you're taking out your frustrations on the good members over here with your babble and spam.
That's why.

PhilX
When english isn't my first language, then I show disrespect? ..that's the most retarded statement you have made so far, only showing how utterly stupid you are!!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
I bet you still misspell in any language, loser, so you're only laughing at yourself, horse's ass. Now go play your video games like a good little boy so you can get more intelligent, OPC reject.

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Re: Can art be repulsive?

Post by HexHammer » Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:40 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote:I bet you still misspell in any language, loser, so you're only laughing at yourself, horse's ass. Now go play your video games like a good little boy so you can get more intelligent, OPC reject.

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Spelling correctly only requires good memory, not intellect. You haven't displayed any intellect so far ..LOL!! :wink:

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Re: Can art be repulsive?

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:45 pm

HexHammer wrote:
Philosophy Explorer wrote:I bet you still misspell in any language, loser, so you're only laughing at yourself, horse's ass. Now go play your video games like a good little boy so you can get more intelligent, OPC reject.

PhilX
Spelling correctly only requires good memory, not intellect. You haven't displayed any intellect so far ..LOL!! :wink:
Did you figure that out all by yourself? Those video games must be doing something for you. At least you're getting something out of your library tard.

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Re: Can art be repulsive?

Post by tbieter » Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:40 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote:Typically art is attractive, often eye pleasing. Now I'm looking at it from the other side of the coin. Can it be repulsive and yet, have desirable qualities?

What do you think?

PhilX
I have this to read and also Eco's History of Beauty.
http://www.amazon.com/Ugliness-Umberto- ... mberto+eco

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Re: Can art be repulsive?

Post by duszek » Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:55 pm

How about "Guernica" by Picasso ?
Disturbing, not pretty to look at.

But it´s art because made by an undisputed artist.

Art requires some mastery of expression.

A selfie of a battle-field would hardly be "art".

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Re: Can art be repulsive?

Post by HexHammer » Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:33 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote:
HexHammer wrote:Spelling correctly only requires good memory, not intellect. You haven't displayed any intellect so far ..LOL!! :wink:
Did you figure that out all by yourself? Those video games must be doing something for you. At least you're getting something out of your library tard.

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I'm quite intelligent enough to figure that out myself.

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