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One of the most beautiful things is to live a life of nonviolence involving unconditional acceptance, love and forgiveness of all peoples and nations. Where we nonviolently sacrifice our lives and our nation for the betterment of all humanity and all life on our planet.
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well, if that works for you, then fine. But it is highly subjective. Don't expect other people to accept your sentiments.
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The dance of life is nothing but violence...no matter the outer appearances or inner lies to self.







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Michael W Lewis wrote:One of the most beautiful things is to live a life of nonviolence involving unconditional acceptance, love and forgiveness of all peoples and nations. Where we nonviolently sacrifice our lives and our nation for the betterment of all humanity and all life on our planet.
It would be a great benefit to mankind, but we must be realistic and learn to conquer the bad things in life. We have to keep in mind that peace does not come without chaos, and also that people who are truly bad must be dealt with in some way.
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A_Seagull wrote:well, if that works for you, then fine. But it is highly subjective. Don't expect other people to accept your sentiments.
Not only does it work for me it will work for all of us and on all planets with creative intelligent life. Its not subjective but optimistic. And I predict that we as a species will achieve a state of nonviolence and survive unto cosmic replication and the post historic state of optimum nonviolence, enjoyment and cosmic replication by a democratic cosmos!
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The dance of life is nothing but violence...no matter the outer appearances or inner lies to self.


Life is in part an evolution of karma on all karmic levels of the individual, family, community, state, nation, planets and cosmos from suffering to enjoyment, violence to nonviolence and animal wisdom to civilized wisdom. Upto the end state of the cosmos and the optimum state of enjoyment, nonviolence and civility. This is not a lie but the truth: the cosmos cares because compassionate people care! And such compassion will win out in the end on all life producing planets! And actuallize our beautiful cosmos!






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Michael W Lewis wrote:One of the most beautiful things is to live a life of nonviolence involving unconditional acceptance, love and forgiveness of all peoples and nations. Where we nonviolently sacrifice our lives and our nation for the betterment of all humanity and all life on our planet.
Kittens and daisies!

:lol:

Caesar ate people like you for lunch. This is hilarious!

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WanderingLands wrote:
Michael W Lewis wrote:One of the most beautiful things is to live a life of nonviolence involving unconditional acceptance, love and forgiveness of all peoples and nations. Where we nonviolently sacrifice our lives and our nation for the betterment of all humanity and all life on our planet.
It would be a great benefit to mankind, but we must be realistic and learn to conquer the bad things in life. We have to keep in mind that peace does not come without chaos, and also that people who are truly bad must be dealt with in some way.
This would be great for all life on our planet and all planets with life on them. We must be wise and conquer violence with nonviolence. Actually we are evolving to higher degrees of organization not chaos. In the form of the Homo sapien sapien species of the Homo sapien sapien wisdom system involving the integration of the knowledge forms of science, philosophy, theology and the combined religious experiences of all life forms. If you mean by truly bad people criminals we should incarcerate individuals not to punish them or to pay some imagined debt to society but to protect other potential victims from them and to evolve nonviolently and rehabilitate them. Certainly some people can't be rehabilitated but must be imprisoned for life but not to punish them. Also we do not use the death penalty because transfiguration is always a good thing! We can achieve justice through the religious experience of "anyoneness" or identity interchange where every individual will directly experience all the suffering (and enjoyment) they have caused others an infinite number of times each!
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Michael W Lewis wrote:
WanderingLands wrote:
Michael W Lewis wrote:One of the most beautiful things is to live a life of nonviolence involving unconditional acceptance, love and forgiveness of all peoples and nations. Where we nonviolently sacrifice our lives and our nation for the betterment of all humanity and all life on our planet.
It would be a great benefit to mankind, but we must be realistic and learn to conquer the bad things in life. We have to keep in mind that peace does not come without chaos, and also that people who are truly bad must be dealt with in some way.
This would be great for all life on our planet and all planets with life on them. We must be wise and conquer violence with nonviolence. Actually we are evolving to higher degrees of organization not chaos. In the form of the Homo sapien sapien species of the Homo sapien sapien wisdom system involving the integration of the knowledge forms of science, philosophy, theology and the combined religious experiences of all life forms. If you mean by truly bad people criminals we should incarcerate individuals not to punish them or to pay some imagined debt to society but to protect other potential victims from them and to evolve nonviolently and rehabilitate them. Certainly some people can't be rehabilitated but must be imprisoned for life but not to punish them. Also we do not use the death penalty because transfiguration is always a good thing! We can achieve justice through the religious experience of "anyoneness" or identity interchange where every individual will directly experience all the suffering (and enjoyment) they have caused others an infinite number of times each!
No! War is the best thing! Read Nietzsche!

"Jede Philosophie, welche den Frieden höher stellt als den Krieg, jede Ethik mit einer negativen Fassung des Begriffs Glück, jede Metaphysik und Physik, welche ein Finale kennt, einen Endzustand irgend welcher Art, jedes vorwiegend aesthetische oder religiöse Verlangen nach einem Abseits, Jenseits, Ausserhalb, Oberhalb erlaubt zu fragen, ob nicht die Krankheit das gewesen ist, was den Philosophen inspirirt hat.

Every philosophy which elevates peace above war, every system of ethics with a negative definition of the concept of happiness, every system of metaphysics or physics which recognizes a finale, an ultimate state of some sort, every predominantly aesthetic or religious demand for something other, beyond, outside, above — all these lead one to wonder whether it was not illness which inspired the philosopher."

" — Zweitens beschuldigt man eine Gesellschaft, in der die Corruption Platz greift, der Erschlaffung: und ersichtlich nimmt in ihr die Schätzung des Krieges und die Lust am Kriege ab, und die Bequemlichkeiten des Lebens werden jetzt eben so heiss erstrebt, wie ehedem die kriegerischen und gymnastischen Ehren.

— Secondly, a society in which corruption takes hold is accused of becoming soft and weak; for the appreciation of war, and the enjoyment of war, perceptibly diminish in such a society; and the comforts of life are now pursued just as assiduously as military and gymnastic honours were formerly. "
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Michael W Lewis wrote:One of the most beautiful things is to live a life of nonviolence involving unconditional acceptance, love and forgiveness of all peoples and nations. Where we nonviolently sacrifice our lives and our nation for the betterment of all humanity and all life on our planet.
And are you going to smugly sit there in your shiny little ivory tower, and forgive THIS?

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"sacrifice"

Not me, pal.
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From Wiki: Globally, violence takes the lives of more than 1.6 million people annually. Just over 50% due to suicide, some 35% due to homicide, and just over 12% as a direct result of war or some other form of conflict.



...perhaps our lives are nothing more than an overt tragedy. Violence is a part of us. Violence is woven within us.





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From Wiki: Globally, violence takes the lives of more than 1.6 million people annually. ...

...perhaps our lives are nothing more than an overt tragedy. Violence is a part of us. Violence is woven within us.
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How do you make 0.2% equate to 'violence is woven within us'?

You also appear to be missing a few percent in your numbers?
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When I made the philosophically bold statement that, Violence is woven within us, I was thinking more of statistics within the United States...;

Just about twice as many individuals commit suicide in the United States as die from homicide.


Since just about everyone is packing now it seems that the violence that is woven inside of us may be inescapable. Even within ourselves to ourselves.


It's not philosophy that is easily initially understood or easily seen at first blush...guess that's why I have been chosen as the leader of this great forum membership. The title doesn't even interest me.

I hope that helps you and I wish you nothing but continued insight upon your path.







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When I made the philosophically bold statement that, Violence is woven within us, I was thinking more of statistics within the United States...; ...
Then why use "Globally"?

Are you saying the rest of the stats applied only to the States? If so and we use the global stat that is still only 0.6% so hardly 'woven within us'.

It's not philosophy that is easily initially understood or easily seen at first blush...
Not surprised as the stats are incorrect, the thought is confused and the conclusion is not supported no matter how the stats are used.
guess that's why I have been chosen as the leader of this great forum membership.
Guess again.
The title doesn't even interest me.
And yet you keep on asserting it?
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