Should sports be considered a performance art?

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IvoryBlackBishop
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Should sports be considered a performance art?

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This is what I consider them to be, but others may disagree.
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some more than others, but all are artistic to an extent...

sports without regulations become more abstract of course...

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A mindful life is performance art, if only for one witness.

In the artistic sense of poetry in motion athletics performed efficiently as designed displays precision, grace, power and speed. Otherwise, the essential aspects of athletics are competition and drama, which are not essential to performance art.

Athletic’s ultimate entertainment value is the uncertain outcome.
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Science and philosophy are performance arts, so why not sports?
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IvoryBlackBishop wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:07 pm This is what I consider them to be, but others may disagree.
There is a sense of beauty in everything we enjoy.
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Here’s one of those sports for a guy with a gut, which includes bowling, darts, pool, NFL lineman, Sumo wrestling which is kind of weird ... and of course huntin’ and fishin’.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkZ0wVul2Fc

This is art because of the physics of relaxation that allows for transference of maximum controlled power to the target only at the crucial moment, so smoothly you don’t even see it, sort of like Zen archery.
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Observe the beauty of stillness and motion.

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Walker wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:37 am Observe the beauty of stillness and motion.

Kyudo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCKLGMK_3No
That was beautiful, thanks.
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Depends on the participants skill, if they have low skill it's not, if high skill it can be.
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IvoryBlackBishop wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:07 pm This is what I consider them to be, but others may disagree.
There are sports that have objective targets...like, "kick the ball in the goal," or "push the opponent onto his back," or "lift the heaviest weight," "run the mile fastest," or "get down the mountain before anyone else." There are objective measurements of achievement.

Then there are things where aesthetics are involved...like "point your toes at entry," "wave the string on the stick tantalizingly," "coordinate all your moves with your partner," "have a nice costume," or "finish your spin with your wrists extended and back arched." The emphasis is on how they look, not what they really did. And for that reason, the scoring of such events if often inaccurate and dishonest (the American judge says 6, and the Russian says 10), because there's no objective way of arbitrating success. These may be "performance art," but I they are not real sports. They're athletic fashion shows.
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