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Two Radios Broadcasts One Behind The Other

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:57 pm
by Pluto
I put Klara FM (the classical music station here in Belgium) on in the kitchen and the same station in the bedroom. The machine which transmits from the bedroom is a few seconds behind the kitchen broadcast. Why?

Re: Two Radios Broadcasts One Behind The Other

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:16 pm
by Arising_uk
Is one a digital radio?

Re: Two Radios Broadcasts One Behind The Other

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:57 pm
by Pluto
Good question, and the answer is yes, the kitchen radio is digital. Which then means (digital receives info quicker than a conventianal, old school radio)?

Re: Two Radios Broadcasts One Behind The Other

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:08 am
by Lynn
In a similar vein, I noticed this happening in the UK with analogue and digital TV signals a few years ago. I think that the Digital Spy forum sums it up well, including
Tetramesh's observations
Here in Belgium the digital feed from BBC1 and BBC2 via satellite are a good 3 or 4 seconds ahead of the analogue broadcast via cable.
and Rabbit Rabbit's techy generalisations re performance http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=803753.
It was always handy to hear the roar of triumph from the other room when a certain football team scored before I could see it on my tv :) or to hear the roar of frustration when the other team scored :( .

Re: Two Radios Broadcasts One Behind The Other

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:55 am
by John
Pluto wrote:Good question, and the answer is yes, the kitchen radio is digital. Which then means (digital receives info quicker than a conventianal, old school radio)?
Digital should lag analogue because of the compression/decompression of the signal so that seems a but strange unless your analogue signal is also being relayed and a lag introduced there.

It explains it here: http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/timelag.html

Re: Two Radios Broadcasts One Behind The Other

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:42 am
by Lynn
John wrote: It explains it here: http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/timelag.html
Thanks. A much clearer explanation.

Re: Two Radios Broadcasts One Behind The Other

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:13 pm
by Pluto
Thanks Lynn and John for your info. When I heard the lag I thought of putting this in a gallery/art exhibition space scenario. Within 20 feet of each other the radios both FM and DAB would relay the broadcast out of sink. But then why would I do this? What would be experienced by doing this? Then again, why does it have to mean anything. It is just quite good in itself. It is not everyday that one experiences this. The same broadcast coming through to you at different times in space. I sense profundity but I cannot explain it.

Re: Two Radios Broadcasts One Behind The Other

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:56 pm
by Lynn
Pluto wrote:Thanks Lynn and John for your info. When I heard the lag I thought of putting this in a gallery/art exhibition space scenario. Within 20 feet of each other the radios both FM and DAB would relay the broadcast out of sink. But then why would I do this? What would be experienced by doing this? Then again, why does it have to mean anything. It is just quite good in itself. It is not everyday that one experiences this. The same broadcast coming through to you at different times in space. I sense profundity but I cannot explain it.
Pluto, I have sat on the floor in the Guggenheim Bilbao for heaven only knows how long, watching visual installations operate in a similar way, with time lag on vertical led ticker tapes but no audio so I like your idea.

Would it be live audio or getting private radio and web based broadcasters to send FM and DAB signals simultaneously of key broadcasts, the content of which could be dependent on where you are exhibiting at the time?

It is an interesting concept, to concentrate on the auditory rather than visual senses. Is this your preferred medium for your art work, given your topic 'Establishment as legitimiser' at viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9168&p=110015#p110015

(Edit live audio live -> live audio)