was socrates more skilled then? or should i write "is socrates.."?Bill Wiltrack wrote:.
Though Thrasymachus is a skilled rhetorician, he is unable to avoid losing his argument to Socrates.
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Good catch Mark.
Perhaps I meant to say, Though Thrasymachus is a skilled rhetorician he is unable to avoid losing his argument to Socrates.
If that is what you meant?
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Good catch Mark.
Perhaps I meant to say, Though Thrasymachus is a skilled rhetorician he is unable to avoid losing his argument to Socrates.
If that is what you meant?
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Impenitent you are goading me.
Your spirit is drunk upon the realization of the company you keep here at the Philosophy Now Forums!
Drink-up my friend!
Tonight is a GOOD night!
The gods are on our side.
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Impenitent you are goading me.
Your spirit is drunk upon the realization of the company you keep here at the Philosophy Now Forums!
Drink-up my friend!
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The gods are on our side.
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a flatterer of Socrates suggesting that others drink in the name of god...
the irony is just delicious ...
you owe yourself an Apology
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the irony is just delicious ...
you owe yourself an Apology
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nice try. i still didnt get it. is there some universal law, god or gods doing that? or was it plain accident? or was socrates more skilled?Bill Wiltrack wrote:.
Good catch Mark.
Perhaps I meant to say, Though Thrasymachus is a skilled rhetorician he is unable to avoid losing his argument to Socrates.
If that is what you meant?
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Still not sure I'm understanding you Mark but I am sure it is safe to say that in whatever way you wish to interpret that sentence would be fine.
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Still not sure I'm understanding you Mark but I am sure it is safe to say that in whatever way you wish to interpret that sentence would be fine.
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once more:Bill Wiltrack wrote:.
Still not sure I'm understanding you
so, what is causing that Thrasymachus is unable to avoid losing his argument to Socrates?Mark Question wrote:nice try. i still didnt get it. is there some universal law, god or gods doing that? or was it plain accident? or was socrates more skilled?Bill Wiltrack wrote:.
Good catch Mark.
Perhaps I meant to say, Though Thrasymachus is a skilled rhetorician he is unable to avoid losing his argument to Socrates.
If that is what you meant?
universal law? like gravity is causing that i cant avoid falling down if i make my leap of fate from roof top? or is it allmighty god that is forcing socrates to win? or is it accident that socrates wins? or is socrates more skilled if he wins skilled opponent? or is socrates more lucky one?
how hard case can we do this?
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Those seem to be very important questions for you.
How am I doing so far?
um, somehow Mark, me thinks you have an answer...and you want to share it.
Please do...
If it were me, I would take the sentence, Though Thrasymachus is a skilled rhetorician he is unable to avoid losing his argument to Socrates, at face value.
Again, Mark, feel free to interpret the sentence in any way that seems fit to you.
I honestly don't know what to add...
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A little help here my friend.
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Those seem to be very important questions for you.
How am I doing so far?
um, somehow Mark, me thinks you have an answer...and you want to share it.
Please do...
If it were me, I would take the sentence, Though Thrasymachus is a skilled rhetorician he is unable to avoid losing his argument to Socrates, at face value.
Again, Mark, feel free to interpret the sentence in any way that seems fit to you.
I honestly don't know what to add...
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A little help here my friend.
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should i do, feeling as free and honest, like you do your interpreting in a way that seems fit to you?Bill Wiltrack wrote:.
I would take the sentence, Though Thrasymachus is a skilled rhetorician he is unable to avoid losing his argument to Socrates, at face value.
feel free to interpret the sentence in any way that seems fit to you.
I honestly don't know what to add...
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why?Bill Wiltrack wrote:Yes
ps. if everybody do, as free and honest, like you do your interpreting in a way that seems fit to you, then would there be as many interpretions about that socrates-story as there was interpreters? quite a many in earth? does it sound like relativism?
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Yes Mark.
We are The Most Important Philosophers of Our Time. Right here at the Philosophy Now Forums.
Not only is it important that we interpret everything here individually but it is imperative.
And, when you think about it, it couldn't be any other way.
Interpret away Mark! And feel GREAT about it!
Thank you for asking this important question. I am happy to to explore this and other ideas with one of The Most Important Philosophers of Our Time...
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Yes Mark.
We are The Most Important Philosophers of Our Time. Right here at the Philosophy Now Forums.
Not only is it important that we interpret everything here individually but it is imperative.
And, when you think about it, it couldn't be any other way.
Interpret away Mark! And feel GREAT about it!
Thank you for asking this important question. I am happy to to explore this and other ideas with one of The Most Important Philosophers of Our Time...
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Mark Question wrote:why?Bill Wiltrack wrote:Yes
ps. if everybody do, as free and honest, like you do your interpreting in a way that seems fit to you, then would there be as many interpretions about that socrates-story as there was interpreters? quite a many in earth? does it sound like relativism?
so, are you relativist then? follower of relativism? is that in a relativist point of view, as good as any ism to follow, like e. g. nazism or bushism? in another words, all points of view are equally valid?Bill Wiltrack wrote:Yes Mark.
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