iambiguous wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:38 pmNext up:
When dealing with hyper- and ultra-conservativism one has to spend some time speaking about it in itself. You have to explain the hystericism of a Alexis Jacobi as a first effort. One has to speak to intellectual and ideological derangement.
And it might pertain to any moral or political issue: human sexuality, race, gender, immigration policy, guns, abortion.
On the other hand, for some here, only when those who are "one of them" -- either hyper- and ultra-liberal or hyper- and ultra-conservative -- does the part about ideological
derangement come into play.
Unless, of course, in bringing this all back around to, say, dasein, I'm just "derailing" another thread.
Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:58 pm
Nice one, Iambiguous. You agree then that derangement is
possible.
No, my argument here about things like human sexuality, drag queens, gender roles, race, etc., revolves around the assumption that there are objectivists among us who attack those who do not share their own moral and political
prejudices. Others are deranged [ideologically or otherwise] if they refuse to become "one of us".
The Satyr Syndrome I call it.
Also, that our own individual value judgments here are rooted existentially/subjectively/subjunctively in dasein...out in a particular world understood in a particular way historically, culturally and personally.
That true derangement revolves more around an actual mental affliction such that how one construes reality has little or nothing to do with objective reality itself. Think schizophrenia.
Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:58 pm
The caveat: there is nothing hysterical in anything I write.
No, in a cool, calm and collected manner, you really do believe that your own value judgments here reflect the most rational assessment. But, from my own frame of mind, your arguments are just another example of what I call the "psychology of objectivism":
1] For one reason or another [rooted largely in dasein], you are taught or come into contact with [through your upbringing, a friend, a book, an experience etc.] a worldview, a philosophy of life regarding drag queens
2] Over time, you become convinced that this perspective regarding drag queens expresses and encompasses the most rational and objective truth. This truth then becomes increasingly more vital, more essential to you as a foundation, a justification, a celebration of all that is moral as opposed to immoral, rational as opposed to irrational.
3] Eventually, for some, they begin to bump into others who feel the same way regarding drag queens; they may even begin to actively seek out folks similarly inclined to view the world in a particular way.
4] Some begin to share this philosophy regarding drag queens with family, friends, colleagues, associates, Internet posters; increasingly it becomes more and more a part of their life. It becomes, in other words, more intertwined in their personal relationships with others...it begins to bind them emotionally and psychologically.
5] As yet more time passes, they start to feel increasingly compelled not only to share their Truth regarding drag queens with others but, in turn, to vigorously defend it against any and all detractors as well.
6] For some, it can reach the point where they are no longer able to realistically construe an argument that disputes their own regarding drag queens as merely a difference of opinion; they see it instead as, for all intents and purposes, an attack on their intellectual integrity....on their very Self.
7] Finally, a stage is reached [again for some] where the original philosophical quest for truth, for wisdom regarding drag queens has become so profoundly integrated into their self-identity [professionally, socially, psychologically, emotionally] defending it has less and less to do with philosophy at all.
Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:58 pmSome conservative ideologues
do seem inclined to excesses. But who becoes hysterical in your view? the American left and the “Progressive Left” seem
genuinely inclined to shrill, emotionalized reaction.
On the other hand...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2 ... r-shooter/
"
Nashville shooting exploited by right to escalate anti-trans rhetoric" Washington Post headline
Or [as expected] Satyr and his right-wing Nazi ilk over at KT. The shooter becoming one of their "Desperate Degenerates".