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Pepi
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If human knowledge is inherently what it is, which is to say often, erroneous, conflictual, incomplete, and so on. How does one get off on explaining the fact that we can even arrive at 'right' things, or statements of truthful conclusion... built on perpetually, beyond one, faulty, assumptions.



Religious and metaphysical abstract views, like logic, are not true in an objective sense. (Big T truth sense) Yet they are useful fictions. Useful abstractions for what they can be pragmatically substantiated through...i.e the success that is achieved in its application.



'Knowledge (be it come to you in any form rational or irrational, objective or subjective) can only be pragmatically substantiated by the success that is achieved in its application. ~

So why would anyone seek "truth" if objective truth is not on the table, ever? Unless truth here is OCD of sorts in organizing knowledge within a restricted or limited sandbox. Since that can be useful. God knows it is for me.

Instead, the question had to be asked whether it was useful/beneficial to act "as if" they were true. This would be wrought out by its fruits. On society, on self, on things in general.

What do you think of that statement.


Complete, gift wrapped truths, don't seem to be existent in the nature of the world. Not surprising given its expansive nature.

Truth whatever it is, is transmuted into form. The landscape of reality in its totality is big T truth, in my best estimations. We're just living in it and playing our games out in it. Like Truth is a MMORPG game simulation and knowledge is my melee, magic whatever skill points, + quest.
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bobmax
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If the Truth were on the table you couldn't be there.

Because existence is possible only insofar as the Truth does not exist.
selena110
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What is knowledge? This refers to the following kinds of issues and questions: How can we know anything (i.e., the starting position of the radical skeptic)?
How should we conduct ourselves?
How should we govern ourselves.
puto
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Puto
Pepi
Philosophy Question
2 February 2023
Truth
Knowledge comes in many types, may as Plato wrote, “Lucky guesses…” be the case. Facts are subjective, and could be objective factual statements. Assumptions were a deliberation of that fact, might a fault be yours. Self-evidence the square root of, l22, will always be, 12, should this not be a finding.
Religious and metaphysical truths are facts, being true to more than one person. Using, pragmatic is an opinion of existence and being, what reference to evidence are you requiring.
What truth-value are you requiring to find these explanations of truth, truths are not relative in any sense.
Veritas Aequitas
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Pepi wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:26 am If human knowledge is inherently what it is, which is to say often, erroneous, conflictual, incomplete, and so on. How does one get off on explaining the fact that we can even arrive at 'right' things, or statements of truthful conclusion... built on perpetually, beyond one, faulty, assumptions.
1. It is evident that each individual is driven to survive as a long as possible till the inevitable.

It is also evident individuals will resort all sorts of irrational or rational, subjective or objective, true or false, real or unreal beliefs to sustain their survival on a 'pragmatic' basis.
But certain choices above can be negative [immediate or subsequently] to 1 above from an individual or collective basis.

To align with 1, beliefs based on a collective inter-subjective consensus is more reliable than a subjective personal belief. This is evident from the synergy from the processing more brains. This is the Objective basis of knowledge, i.e. knowledge that is independent from any individual's opinion, beliefs and judgment.

The degree of Objectivity will depends on the credibility of the Framework and System of Knowledge [FSK] the objectivity is grounded upon.
At present the Scientific [also the mathematics] FSK is the most reliable among all other FSKs, thus it is the standard bearer of objectivity for all FSKs.

Whilst the various FSKs [with different degrees of objectivity] will enable degrees of utilities to facilitate 1 above, they must be subjected to the moral FSK based on objective moral facts.
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