Yes, I did. And I will take my broom with me for all of my travels.
Representing oneself through someone else
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Well, that came easy to me!
I'm considering (for fun) that I could come up with something nice to say about everyone on this forum... even the ones I've often challenged and potentially insulted.
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Gossip is to talk about people.
You and others of your ilk mostly talk about people.
Philosophy is to talk about principles.
Illustrating principles requires the observation of principles being illustrated.
Dattaswami talks about principles through the filters of Hindu iconography, or roles, that are given names for easy reference to research, if one cares to consider their relevance to principles being enacted through relationships, such as those both formal and informal and limited to manifestions such as dialogue, by the circumstance.
And as the data from Dattaswami tells us, Hindu iconography and the meaning behind it is about roles.
Not rolls. Not Rolls Royce autos, unless perhaps Ganesh is in the discussion.
This is meaning behind the expression, living life as a metaphor, aka, living one's philosophy.
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Be nice. Don't be mean.
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As I have been SAYING, the ASSUMPTIONS and BELIEFS that 'you', adult human beings, HAVE and HOLD IS what IS STOPPING and PREVENTING from LEARNING, and BECOMING WISER.Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:39 pmInteresting/good description!bobmax wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:05 pmWe are fanatics.
This happens when we can no longer bear the uncertainty of life.
We want to escape from existential angst. And instead of delving into ourselves, which involves more suffering... let's take a shortcut.
So we grab some "truth" that is presented to us and pretend that it is absolute Truth!
Here is fanaticism.
When we are little kids, every day is a new adventure to be explored. Every moment is full of potential. We are much more adaptive at that stage, it seems. The older we get, the more we want to be in control and be 'right' -- and yes, we can become fanatics as a result of that. We might expect that we're supposed to know all the answers when we get older, rather than relaxing in the acceptance that we don't and it's not even necessary. We're actually stunted when we defend our rigidity.
See, young children NEVER have NOR hold ASSUMPTIONS nor BELIEFS about what is true, right, and correct in Life, and this is WHY they ENJOY Life, LIVE Life, with EVERY moment being in FULL POTENTIAL to 'them'. It is also this NON ownership of BELIEF and ASSUMPTION WHY 'they' are SO QUICK and SO FAST to LEARN and become WISER than those of 'you', adult human beings, who are, literally, STUCK in 'your' OWN BELIEFS and ASSUMPTIONS.
BELIEF is just being stuck in some "truth".
'Grabbing onto' some 'truth' and PRETENDING that 'it' 'absolute Truth', which is what 'you' ALL do here, and which can be CLEARLY SEEN and PROVED True, is what is HOLDING 'you' ALL back, from what IS ACTUALLY IRREFUTABLY True.
The funniest AND saddest part here is while 'trying to' escape from some existential angst, which 'you' ALL have, 'you' are ALL MISSING OUT on the Fact that NO ACTUAL such 'thing' actually exists ANYWAY. 'you' have ALL 'grabbed hold' of 'some' 'truth', which is NOT even true to begin with, and are PRETENDING, to "yourselves" ONLY, that it is some 'absolute Truth'. That 'truth', laughably, is - 'we are going to die'.
Also, what is EVEN MORE funny and MORE sadder here is that DELVING INTO "your" 'selves' as DEEP as 'you' could get, then there is NO ACTUAL 'suffering' AT ALL. In fact there is ONLY PURE BLISS, CONTENTMENT, SATISFACTION, and REWARD. Although, there are, admittedly, some not so pleasant 'home truths' 'you' will be told or will learn along the way. But, REALLY, these are ALL just very superficial anyway, and are NEEDED to REACH the FINALITY.
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The 'young person' does NOT 'open up', to the 'world'.bobmax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:50 amYes, but I think the fact that as you get older you take stock of the right is a necessary process.Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:39 pm When we are little kids, every day is a new adventure to be explored. Every moment is full of potential. We are much more adaptive at that stage, it seems. The older we get, the more we want to be in control and be 'right' -- and yes, we can become fanatics as a result of that. We might expect that we're supposed to know all the answers when we get older, rather than relaxing in the acceptance that we don't and it's not even necessary. We're actually stunted when we defend our rigidity.
The young person opens up to the world and experiences life.
The 'young person' IS OPEN to the 'world', and EXPERIENCES 'Life', Itself.
But, VERY SADLY, it is BECAUSE of this absolutely True and FULL OPENNESS 'they' LEARN ALL of the Wrong that 'you' 'older people' TEACH 'them' while ALSO learning HOW TO "justify" and/or "minimize" the Wrong that ALL of 'you', 'older people' DO.
But, because 'you', 'older people', will NOT DELVE INTO "yourselves" 'you' NEVER get to SEE and LEARN this 'HOME Truth'. 'you' ARE, literally, being STUNTED by 'your', VERY OWN, VERY RIGID BELIEFS and ASSUMPTIONS.
It is a GOOD 'father', and 'mother', who 'kicks' the 'son', and 'daughter', when 'old enough', out into the 'world' UNDER a WATCHFUL EYE, from AFAR.
Where is this DISILLUSIONMENT of 'suffering' coming FROM, EXACTLY?
When one has been GUIDED to GROW UP and MATURE PROPERLY and CORRECTLY, then they can NEVER so-called 'suffer'. It is ONLY children, non human animals, and even 'the world', itself, that can SUFFER, if they ARE, then it is ALWAYS because of what 'you', adult human beings, HAVE DONE.
LOL 'you' could NOT be MORE DISILLUSIONED here "bobmax".
ACTUAL 'Truth' ACTUALLY sets 'you' FREE.
It is that 'some' 'truth', which 'you', adult human beings, have a tendency to GRAB ONTO and HOLD ONTO and PRETEND is 'absolute Truth' WHERE 'pain', ACTUALLY, COMES FROM and EXISTS.
And 'you' appear to NOT be able to face the so-called 'pain' of the IRREFUTABLE Truth that I have TELLING and EXPOSING to 'you' here.
Which, as 'you' may well be Correct in saying, is WHY 'you' are FORCING 'the game' here by LYING.
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I can count the active posters here that have mental illness in under one number.
If one here thinks that they do NOT have some form of 'mental illness', then this SHOWS and PROVES just how much 'ego' was around, back in the days when this was being written.
This 'one' here, for example, ACTUALLY BELIEVES that what 'it' was 'TAUGHT' through the so-called 'education system' is ACTUAL true, right, and correct.
Which is absolutely LAUGHABLE considering some of 'things' that are and were being 'TAUGHT' 'here'. Which, by the way, is just ANOTHER FORM of 'representing "oneself" through "someone else".
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"lacewing" this is EXACTLY what 'you' DO here.
Can 'you' REALLY STILL NOT SEE and RECOGNIZE 'this'?
"OH there is MUCH MORE than what you can see. There is NOT one Truth. If only you LISTENED to me and FOLLOWED me and 'danced in the moment', like me, then all will be so MUCH BETTER for you all".
And as for the 'type of people' this forum 'attracts', SURELY 'you' are AWARE that 'you' are HERE, in THIS 'forum', right?
The consistent feedback, which has been and is continually being FED TO 'you', does NOT seem to be having ANY useful impact, on 'you', anyway.
How about 'you', "lacewing", not just 'lighten up' but ALSO OPEN UP?
Or, is this just TOO MUCH to ask for, from 'you'?
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As long as 'you' keep that 'short and dry', quick witted humor, "harbal", then 'you' will still remain the most so-called 'normal' one here.
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That's right, Age.Age wrote: ...
As a principle, Gossip distracts from philosophisizing, and small-talk witticisims are good for a chuckle.