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God, Spirituality, and Other Religious Topics

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Why are Philosophy of Religion threads found in so many of the secular forums?

Is it an attempt to take over all the forums?

Is the point being implied that religion encompasses all of philosophy?

Seriously, is there an intention or purpose for this?
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I think half of it might be Dattaswami trolling the forum. I guess the secular equivalent of a religious fanatic would be someone who trolls a site with porn links maybe? I mean ultimately both types seem to produce a lot of posts. I suppose the difference is that one thinks they have something everyone wants to see and the other something everyone needs to see (though perhaps not respectively).
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If a Christian shows up on a secular philosophy forum, he's going to get challenged. That's fair. But that means that discussion it going to happen. And it seems that secularists love to debate with religious folks...most particularly Christians.

Interestingly, I never started the "Christianity" thread, or any of the other religious-themed threads. Somebody else always did. I don't think I've even started one such thread, in all the time I've been here. I sure have participated in what others started, but I haven't started any myself.
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commonsense wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:12 am Why are Philosophy of Religion threads found in so many of the secular forums?

Is it an attempt to take over all the forums?

Is the point being implied that religion encompasses all of philosophy?

Seriously, is there an intention or purpose for this?
Whether God exists is THE biggest question of mankind, it then follows that it is the biggest question for philosophical enquiry.
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attofishpi wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:28 am
commonsense wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:12 am Why are Philosophy of Religion threads found in so many of the secular forums?

Is it an attempt to take over all the forums?

Is the point being implied that religion encompasses all of philosophy?

Seriously, is there an intention or purpose for this?
Whether God exists is THE biggest question of mankind, it then follows that it is the biggest question for philosophical enquiry.
But does the question belong in so many focused forums?

I wonder whether it is an important question anyway. I mean we are where we are in the universe today, regardless of whether we are so due to intelligent design or due to evolution. What significance is the matter of design v. evolution other than as an argument for or against the existence of God, which might not make a difference in where we are today anyway?
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commonsense wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:01 pm
I wonder whether it is an important question anyway. I mean we are where we are in the universe today, regardless of whether we are so due to intelligent design or due to evolution. What significance is the matter of design v. evolution other than as an argument for or against the existence of God, which might not make a difference in where we are today anyway?
Exactly.

The most important philosophical question is a threefer, and wouldn't you know it, it was asked by an artist.

Where do we come from? What are we? Where are we going?

This the road for each specialization. Philosophy, science, art, religion ... type of religion.

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What the threefer causes is, justifications of conclusions that are based on reasoning about the cause and effect of observable phenomena. In other words, until those three questions can be answered regarding one’s unadorned identity of awareness, to the intellectual satisfaction that applies to all in a universally accepted unified field theory, then each road will lead to the same traffic jam at the same red light where all the electric cars are looking for a jump charge.

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After this artist said so long to his buddy Vincent in favour of paradise, Vincent cut off his ear. Or maybe it before he left on the high seas.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:07 am If a Christian shows up on a secular philosophy forum, he's going to get challenged. That's fair. But that means that discussion it going to happen. And it seems that secularists love to debate with religious folks...most particularly Christians.

Interestingly, I never started the "Christianity" thread, or any of the other religious-themed threads. Somebody else always did. I don't think I've even started one such thread, in all the time I've been here. I sure have participated in what others started, but I haven't started any myself.
That is interesting, and it has implications about secularists such as, the pecular psychological need to prove that what they think does not exist, does not exist. This leads to another observation, no need to describe the road that led to it, and that's about the guards of the Roman Empire. The guys in the trenches.

Did they recognize Jesus as the son of God, only to do what they did anyway?

Or, did they not recognize Jesus as the son of God?
Did they somehow not recognize the God-like qualities in Jesus?

In other words, to get philosophical ... to Be a Philosopher and ask a question to be answered, somehow.

Do even evil-doers know the evil that they do?
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Walker wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:53 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:07 am If a Christian shows up on a secular philosophy forum, he's going to get challenged. That's fair. But that means that discussion it going to happen. And it seems that secularists love to debate with religious folks...most particularly Christians.

Interestingly, I never started the "Christianity" thread, or any of the other religious-themed threads. Somebody else always did. I don't think I've even started one such thread, in all the time I've been here. I sure have participated in what others started, but I haven't started any myself.
That is interesting, and it has implications about secularists such as, the pecular psychological need to prove that what they think does not exist, does not exist.
Well, you could narrowly define it that way (as you do), or you could consider that people argue the point because their culture is so inundated, entrenched, and distorted by nonsense beliefs, to the point that some believers become mindless extremist zombies that can be controlled by politics. These are beliefs worth questioning when they affect so much.
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Walker wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:53 pm Do even evil-doers know the evil that they do?
Romans 1:18-25.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:01 pm
Walker wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:53 pm Do even evil-doers know the evil that they do?
Romans 1:18-25.
For example, the labeled "christians" exchanged the truth about God for a lie, like God is a "he", and worshiped and served created things, like 'crosses' and 'churches', rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

Which is just ONE HYPOCRISY here among MANY.

The BIGGEST 'sinners' in the world can be the ones who CLAIM to worship and follow God and "jesus". These "evil-doers" REALLY do NOT even KNOW the ACTUAL 'evil' that they ARE DOING.
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