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Peter Kropotkin
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how do we survive our soul crushing world?

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how do we survive our modern world which is not only soul
crushing, but demeaning, disheartening and joyless?

Our depressing and unfulfilling world has very little to recommend it
to us human beings... and what is the worst part? That we bring this
shit on ourselves... by holding onto such dreary and wearisome ism's
and ideologies like capitalism and dictatorships (like the one that
the MAGA crop is offering us in the form of IQ45)

How can we not be discouraged in our times when slightly less
of the population wants to bring about Iran west, and take away our
freedoms like being able to vote, to have an abortion, to avoid being
legally killed by the police... to be discriminated against for being
gay or trans or believing in a different god...

The radical right wants to deprive a substantial portion of the
American population from having equal rights, to love who you want,
to be who you want to be, to vote for whomever I want to vote for,
to have the freedom to have an on-demand abortion...to having
work be a safe place to work, not to have to worry about bad
pay, or medieval "right to work" laws or to being abused by one's boss or
fellow employees...

to practice stoicism in the face of these attacks on our being,
seems to me, is just to avoid the problem... instead of dealing with
the issues of our current dehumanization and continued soul crushing
ism's like capitalism and dictatorships...

What is the next step or steps we must take to reclaim our lives?
To make our lives our own, despite the ongoing demand that we
must sacrifice our lives to the greater good that is so soul crushing in
capitalism and dictatorship....

How do I become me in the face of making our lives just a means to
create profits?

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Good OP!

What's life, eh?
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I suppose a large proportion of the population just enjoys seeing others suffer. Of course, they are too stupid and unimaginative to realise that 'they' could be the one being 'seen' one day.
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Rubbernecking is a natural human behavior, but rubbernecks should not deter we philosophers from having the courage to face the most terrible things, if we must, to find the troof.

In the words of the great Mamie Elizabeth Carthan, what happens to anyone had better be the business of us all!
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:51 am I suppose a large proportion of the population just enjoys seeing others suffer.
Probably the ones worshiping Yahweh. After all, a sizeable chunk of the NT was written by a man who used to murder Christians (Paul). God found some real winners out there to spread his word. It would be like Jack the Ripper preaching sermons on how to love thy neighbor.
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Moses too. That dude was like a regular vlad the impaler. Still that's nothing compared to the seven hundred billion people murdered by Marx and Engels. Mannie'll tell ya all about it.
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Abortions on demand are the very definition of de-humanisation, since they promote the idea that a baby isn't human. I can't really think of anything much worse for the moral and cultural wellbeing of a society, since it cheapens human life. When life is cheap, any act of cruelty is ok.
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Mr. Harris would like to have a word with you, Maia.

(it's audio only) https://youtu.be/jk44Hk3waRA
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Gary Childress wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 3:19 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:51 am I suppose a large proportion of the population just enjoys seeing others suffer.
Probably the ones worshiping Yahweh. After all, a sizeable chunk of the NT was written by a man who used to murder Christians (Paul). God found some real winners out there to spread his word. It would be like Jack the Ripper preaching sermons on how to love thy neighbor.
Commentary:
Double-think is when you blame God, while not believing that God exists.
When you blame with bitterness you are an accomplished double-thinker who can also hate your neighbor, and call it luv.
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Gary Childress wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 3:19 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:51 am I suppose a large proportion of the population just enjoys seeing others suffer.
Probably the ones worshiping Yahweh. After all, a sizeable chunk of the NT was written by a man who used to murder Christians (Paul). God found some real winners out there to spread his word. It would be like Jack the Ripper preaching sermons on how to love thy neighbor.
A fundamental idea of Christianity is that a person can change and improve his/her life.

He's not trapped by sin or mistakes forever. He doesn't have to be a murderer.

If Jack stopped ripping and proceeded to love his neighbors, then he would be a role model for Christianity.
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Walker wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:21 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 3:19 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:51 am I suppose a large proportion of the population just enjoys seeing others suffer.
Probably the ones worshiping Yahweh. After all, a sizeable chunk of the NT was written by a man who used to murder Christians (Paul). God found some real winners out there to spread his word. It would be like Jack the Ripper preaching sermons on how to love thy neighbor.
Commentary:
Double-think is when you blame God, while not believing that God exists.
When you blame with bitterness you are an accomplished double-thinker who can also hate your neighbor, and call it luv.
If Yahweh exists, then he seems to bestow his grace upon some pretty messed up people to spread his word.

If Yahweh does not exist, then there would be no such absurdity.

Does that make the implications more understandable for you or do you need brail?
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phyllo wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:52 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 3:19 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:51 am I suppose a large proportion of the population just enjoys seeing others suffer.
Probably the ones worshiping Yahweh. After all, a sizeable chunk of the NT was written by a man who used to murder Christians (Paul). God found some real winners out there to spread his word. It would be like Jack the Ripper preaching sermons on how to love thy neighbor.
A fundamental idea of Christianity is that a person can change and improve his/her life.

He's not trapped by sin or mistakes forever. He doesn't have to be a murderer.

If Jack stopped ripping and proceeded to love his neighbors, then he would be a role model for Christianity.
Sure, and then what can be said of people who live shit lives but never laid a hand on another person in anger? In order to match this "role model" does that mean we should all go on a killing spree just to get God's attention so we can then be blessed?
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Gary Childress wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:14 pm
Does that make the implications more understandable for you or do you need brail?
Why would I need brail, Gary?
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Maia wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:50 am Abortions on demand are the very definition of de-humanisation, since they promote the idea that a baby isn't human. I can't really think of anything much worse for the moral and cultural wellbeing of a society, since it cheapens human life. When life is cheap, any act of cruelty is ok.

K: Your post has problems and in no particular order,

Your usage of language is problematic, for example a "baby" is already born,
before birth it is called a fetus and a fetus is not human...it isn't born..
an example of this is an acorn.. ACORN: acorns contain seeds that can
grow new oak trees...and if you were to crush an acorn, would you say,
I have killed a tree? Of course not... you would say, I stepped on an acorn..
not, I have stepped on a tree...a fetus as an acorn, is but a possibility,
nothing more..

as for abortions being dehumanizing, you want dehumanizing, try our current
political and economic ism's... capitalism is the single most dehumanizing
political/economic system ever created....and I don't hold as you do, that
abortions are dehumanizing... in fact, I hold the opposite..
I am a parent, a girl, well now a woman, and I know that a basic
necessities of a baby, already born, not of a fetus, not yet born,
is love... babies need love as much as they need food and water and
shelter and the other human necessities...babies without love die just
as surely as they will die without food and water
and a baby that is not loved is as doomed as a child with cancer...
if you don't have love, you may as will not have been born...
life without love is pointless and meaningless, for a baby and for
an adult...

without love, it is better not be born..

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promethean75 wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:10 pm Mr. Harris would like to have a word with you, Maia.

(it's audio only) https://youtu.be/jk44Hk3waRA
Abortion does not address what causes the need for abortion. It's merely a way to keep being stupid, over and over again.

Prosecuting women for having an abortion is just the type of thing that Leftists would encourage, oh yes. Martyrs for the cause, don't you know. Martyrs for the cause of Death.

It's a death cult.
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