bobmax wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:05 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:23 am
What's the point of being born if you are just going to die.
Wouldn't the opposite be absurd?
If once born I never die, wouldn't this be the real horror?
In this case, life would have no meaning, because nothing would have value.
The value that only death can give.
But not death itself, death gives value through you.
It is necessary to live for death.
Not desiring death, but living fully with the awareness of death.
Death prompts you to seek treasure in the field.
That is, to look for what really matters.
It forces you to face the gaze of the Medusa, because only from you can the Truth arise.
But if you reject death, then you make it the ultimate truth itself.
And you are prey to nihilism.
You are not telling me anything that I don't already know.
My main point is..why on earth, would anyone choose to be born, when they do not have to, why choose to procreate, why choose life when we do not have to? the universe does not require humanity to be, nor does the earth require humanity to be, plants and trees, the birds and the bees do not require humanity to be, nor does anything at all require humanity to be.
I personally did not choose to be born...so all that means is that the idea that there is a choosing to be born is an illusion....and so to me, the illusion there is a chooser, when there clearly isn't.. is a just an irritating mental annoyance, and if choice was real, I'd would much rather have never been born at all, into this mentally created annoying illusion. That's all I'm saying.
Being a Nihilist, for me, is not a negative emotion, rather, to me, it's the opposite, it's just coming to terms with the reality of things...it is just coming to the ultimate realisation that there is no thing living life. And that it is as and through that unconditional acceptance that life is indeed known to be an illusion is how I am able to bare it...because I also know that there is absolutely nothing that I personally can do to change this annoying persistent illusion ... I am aware it's going to continue on and on and on and on until humans finally go extinct, where there will be no more conceptual knowing available as to know extinction has happened..so even if there was a human extinction, even that idea would never be known to have happened, because one would have had to have known the extinction happened.
Life does not make any sense whatsoever, and I'm perfectly ok with that, and that's also why it's annoying to me, because I have no choice but to accept I'm just an illusion I'd rather not be, but are whether I like it or not..
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