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simplicity wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:34 am
bahman wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:05 am
simplicity wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:53 pm
May I ask how old you are?
55.
What has given you the most satisfaction in your life?
State of peace which is not permanent since it is constantly disturbed.
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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:36 am
bahman wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 4:34 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 5:16 am
Note "meaning of" "life".
Thus the striving to stay alive is the basic meaning of 'life'.
I know what you are saying but that is not the meaning that I am looking for.
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 5:16 am The next task is how to make life more meaningful by understanding the basic mechanisms of life and align with the mechanisms to avoid sufferings, optimize pleasure and a sense of peace.
Peace is good but provided that there is a meaning to it.
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 5:16 am There are many other variables to life and the meaning of life up of the levels of peak performances and achievements etc. to be optimized according to one's physiological and psychological state within one's environment.
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology)
    In positive psychology, a flow state, also known colloquially as being in the zone, is the mental state in which a person performing some activity is fully immersed in a feeling of energized focus, full involvement, and enjoyment in the process of the activity. In essence, flow is characterized by the complete absorption in what one does, and a resulting transformation in one's sense of time.
Apparently you seem to be seeking merely a single variable to represent 'what is the meaning of life' and you will never find a meaningful life.
You will never find one if you don't look for it.
Your OP is destined to fail.
How can you find "it" if you don't know what you are looking for?

Are you familiar with Meno's Paradox, in particular this line;
  • "If you don't know what you're looking for, inquiry is impossible. "
I know what I am looking for as it is illustrated in OP.
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 5:16 am Whatever the meaning or fact, it has to be conditioned and qualified to some specific Framework and System of Knowledge [FSK].

For example, what is meaning to Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Psychology, sociology, anthropology, mathematics, logic, politics, legal, customs, traditions, language, etc. has to be qualified within its specific FSK.

In this case, you need to qualify what is the Framework and System and Knowledge of 'What is life' specific to yours' or a groups' expectations before you can establish what is the meaning of life.

Note in your OP, nothing is specified clearly.
It is specified clearly. Meaning is neither thought nor feeling. It is a different category.
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 5:16 am To go somewhere, you need to at least state some compass point and the specific variables, else yours will be a never-ending search.
Even in Science, you have to start with some hypothesis, then prove whether it is right and if wrong to change the variables in the hypothesis or abandon it.
I have tried to impute by sense of rationality into your question but you're just not receptive to anything rational.

To be more credible you have to ensure your conclusions are verified empirically and justified with sound philosophical reasonings.

In your case, your seeking is 'infected' with Meno's Paradox and you will forever be lost in this pursuit.
I don't think so.
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popeye1945 wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:59 pm The meaning of life is when one realizes that the physical world is utterly meaningless in the absence of a conscious subject, life, biology is then creator of all meaning, which it bestows upon the world at its discretion. Biological reaction to the physical world is your everyday reality/experience you are free to bestow what values you will.
How the consciousness can grant meaning to the life. The problem start with consciousness when you realize that something is missing.
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DPMartin wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:45 pm
bahman wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:31 pm Whatever it is it cannot be in the thought and feeling category. Well, if there is such a thing as the meaning of life then one should be able to experience it.
without a relationship to the Living God, there's no meaning unless you make one up (family, country, self satisfactions, religions, yada yada). but all of those are just temporary. you could leave a legacy like Caesar or Hitler but that fades away in the memory of those that will come later. it all returns to the ground. if you're looking for meaning in something you will loss and will be lost. have at it.
How relation with God can give meaning to life?
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Age wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:53 pm
simplicity wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:10 pm Thought of as the central inquiry of philosophy [essentially the same as, "Who am I ?"], this question alone paints an accurate picture of the human ego.

When one considers the enormity of the Universe, how is it possible that some insignificant species on a planet out in the middle of nowhere could have, "a purpose," AND, if [by some miracle] there was some sort of purpose, that we have the cognitive ability to understand such?
WHY do some of 'you', insignificant human beings, think or imagine that 'you' would have some purpose that would be different from EVERY other living 'thing'?

Is it NOT possible that 'the purpose' of ALL living 'things' is the EXACT SAME?

The answer, by the way, is found WHEN finding what the meaning of life IS, EXACTLY.
simplicity wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:10 pm I say we spend our time figuring out why the vast majority of humanity spends so much of its time attempting to procure something for nothing.
Will you list the 'things' that you are attempting to procure for nothing?

If no, then WHY NOT?

If you did, then we would have something to LOOK AT, which we could then DISCUSS, and then find out WHY 'you', and the 'vast majority of you', spend so much of your time attempting to procure something for nothing.
You should consider simply engaging instead of having to re-define EVERYTHING.
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bahman wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:31 pm
simplicity wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:34 am
bahman wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:05 am
55.
What has given you the most satisfaction in your life?
State of peace which is not permanent since it is constantly disturbed.
And what gives you this state of peace?
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bahman wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:40 pm
popeye1945 wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:59 pm The meaning of life is when one realizes that the physical world is utterly meaningless in the absence of a conscious subject, life, biology is then creator of all meaning, which it bestows upon the world at its discretion. Biological reaction to the physical world is your everyday reality/experience you are free to bestow what values you will.
How the consciousness can grant meaning to the life. The problem start with consciousness when you realize that something is missing.
bahman,

What's missing?
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simplicity wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:31 pm
bahman wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:31 pm
simplicity wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:34 am

What has given you the most satisfaction in your life?
State of peace which is not permanent since it is constantly disturbed.
And what gives you this state of peace?
By being indifferent.
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popeye1945 wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:53 pm
bahman wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:40 pm
popeye1945 wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:59 pm The meaning of life is when one realizes that the physical world is utterly meaningless in the absence of a conscious subject, life, biology is then creator of all meaning, which it bestows upon the world at its discretion. Biological reaction to the physical world is your everyday reality/experience you are free to bestow what values you will.
How the consciousness can grant meaning to the life. The problem start with consciousness when you realize that something is missing.
bahman,

What's missing?
The meaning.
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Meaning is the conscious experience of the body, the physical world as apparent reality is a biological readout.
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The meaning of life is to wake up every morning and ask yourself ''what is the meaning of life'' until you die.




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bahman wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:53 pm
simplicity wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:31 pm
bahman wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:31 pm
State of peace which is not permanent since it is constantly disturbed.
And what gives you this state of peace?
By being indifferent.
Perhaps it's not being indifferent, it's just "being." Being indifferent is an active posture and creates a reaction, whereas just being creates only empty space [many people call it peace].

Keep "just being" and you will retain your peace.
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popeye1945 wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:57 pm Meaning is the conscious experience of the body, the physical world as apparent reality is a biological readout.
No. Even animal experience their body but they are not cognitively open to understanding that there is such a thing as meaning.
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Dontaskme wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:18 pm The meaning of life is to wake up every morning and ask yourself ''what is the meaning of life'' until you die.




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What if there is a life after death?
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simplicity wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:37 pm
bahman wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:53 pm
simplicity wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:31 pm
And what gives you this state of peace?
By being indifferent.
Perhaps it's not being indifferent, it's just "being." Being indifferent is an active posture and creates a reaction, whereas just being creates only empty space [many people call it peace].

Keep "just being" and you will retain your peace.
Just being does not work since you are constantly under influence of feelings and thoughts.
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