iambiguous wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:25 pm And all I can do is to ask
Immanuel Can to note a particular context that is now unfolding out in the world we live in -- one we are all likely to be familiar with involving conflicting moral and political assessments -- and explore with me our respective understanding of how one acquires a "sense of self" in defending or attacking one set of behaviors rather than another.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:47 pm Which "particular context" do you want me to "note"? Which context of what? And what do you mean you want me to "note" it?
Come on, there are many, many contexts in which individuals have conflicting moral and political value judgments. Pick up a newspaper and read all about them.
Now, why
do we come to so many conflicting points of view here as individuals? How can that possibly
not be profoundly related to our historical era, our culture, our indoctrination as children, our uniquely individual experiences as adults?
And, given that, what is one to do but to latch on to this God or that God, this political ideology or that political ideology, this deontological assessment or that deontological assessment, these assumptions about nature, or those assumptions about nature.
I merely suggest that this rooted in dasein, in the manner in which I encompass my own "sense of self" on these threads:
https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop ... 1&t=176529
https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop ... 1&t=194382
https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop ... 5&t=185296
And then given a set of circumstance we are all familiar with at the existential intersection of identity, value judgments, conflicting goods and political economy, we can explore human identity more substantively.
Or, sure, given the main components of your own understanding of how we come to acquire a sense of self in our interactions with others.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:47 pm And what makes you think one "acquires" a "self"? Where did you get that notion from?
It's not a "notion" -- 'a conception of or belief about something' -- it's a description of how my life unfolded existentially such that "I" came to believe this and not that about particular moral and political value judgments.
The same with you. Your life just happened to predispose you "here and now" to believe in the Christian God.
After all, beyond that, there's no way [that I' am aware of] that you can demonstrate that all rational men and women are obligated to believe in Him too. Or can you? How is your belief here not just one more "existential leap of faith"?
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:47 pm Who's "attacking" a "set of behaviours"? Can one even DO that?
Are you kidding me?!!! Ask the folks in Ukraine if they are not attacking Putin's "set of behaviors". Ask Ketanji Brown Jackson if Republicans aren't attacking hers.