While I do understand your concerns, ideas of good and evil are natural products of survival.
I have no idea what that is suppose to mean. "Products of?" How does survival, "produce," good and evil? ...and what are the good and evil survival produces. I'm not quizzing or testing you (I'm not Age or IC), I simply do not know what you mean.
To correct you here, I stated that
IDEAS of G&E are natural products of survival...
While humans have insinuated that a Creator-God is real rather than imagined, it is only natural to include therein, that The Creator instilled this within the creation.
Nature does not provide any knowledge or principles.
No.
What Nature provides is opportunity to learn principles through knowledge obtain via experience of Nature. In that, is the 'instilled' aspect re "The Creator".
All knowledge must be discovered and learned and all principles derived by reason from knowledge.
This is what I am saying. It is Nature [The Universe in general - the Earth experience in specific] which provides the experience which in turns provides knowledge.
Christians may use God as the explanation for their made-up, "principles," but they had to make them up
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No one of us 'made up' nature. It is natural to include the idea of a "Creator' with the idea of 'Creation'
Where the wheels get wobbly, is when morals [Laws] become fixed and immovable - not something that nature itself is - by attributing said Laws as "coming from The Creator.
Personally there are no views of what is called morality in any religion or ideology that has any foundation in reality as far as I can see.
It is commendable that anyone can admit such. However, since it is just a personal opinion, it cannot be considered as evidence in and of itself that the opinion is based in factuality.
Every one fails to identify what so-called morals principles are for or make their purpose something other than individual human life, i.e. God, or Society, or Mankind, or Nature, or some abomination call humanity or the future.
Well as I pointed out, the ideas come from the experience humans have of nature. Cutting those out of the equation, or placing a shadow of doubt on/demonizing such things, isn't helpful, whatever quarter these ideas come from.
Without morality, we would still be picking scabs et al, and living in mountain caves.
But we are not so much, anymore.
Not one so-called moral view even consider how observing moral principles improves a single individual's own life and all regard individual human beings as means to some ideological goals or objectives that justify the oppression or sacrifice of individual human beings.
That is the wobbly wheel I mentioned. I don't think it is skeptically appropriate to throw babies out with bathwater.