Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:35 pm
Age wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:27 pm...the Fact that thee Universe can NOT be ANY other than INFINITE and ETERNAL IS ACTUALLY thee Truth of 'things' by DEFINITION.
Infinity cannot define itself as a fact known by that which can only be known as a conceived thing.
I KNOW this and I think EVERY one here would KNOW this, so WHY say it?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:35 pm
The above statement is a conceived thing...
Absolutely EVERY thing is a 'conceived thing' to 'you', including 'you', and this EXPLAINS WHY 'you' do NOT even KNOW who NOR what 'you' ARE, EXACTLY, correct?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:35 pm
which is inseparable from infinity that cannot conceive itself.
There is absolute NO 'thing' that can conceive itself, to 'you', the UNKNOWN, to 'you', 'thing' here, correct. So, WHY continue to say and ONLY say this sort of thing, at some particular times? WHY NOT just keep saying this EXACT SAME 'thing' that 'conceived things' can NOT know 'things', AND, keep saying them for as long as that 'thing', known as "dontaskme' keeps existing here for?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:35 pm
A conceived thing can no more know it's conceiver as an object can know it's an object.
We KNOW that this is what 'you' BELIEVE is true. But WHY say this in this reply and NOT in the previous one for example?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:35 pm
Infinity is known as a concept
AND an ACTUAL 'thing'. As 'you' have been previously INFORMED of but can NOT seem to COMPREHEND nor MAKE SENSE OF and UNDERSTAND.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:35 pm
that has no beginning nor end, so in that knowledge, infinity cannot inform itself it exists, except in this conception.
OF COURSE NOT, and as far as I am AWARE there is absolutely NO human being that has EVER claimed that a 'concept', itself, KNOWS ANY thing.
So, WHY AGAIN, do you keep RE-REPEATING 'this thing', which NO one DISAGREES with?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:35 pm
Conceived things know nothing...
OKAY, ONCE AGAIN.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:35 pm
objects have absolutely no knowledge of their existence.
OKAY.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:35 pm
Knowledge can only point to the illusory nature of CONCEPTION...in the same context a 'dream character' cannot know of it's existence, a dream's existence is just a projection of the dreamer which cannot know itself, the dreamer can only see AS AND THROUGH image, as IN a dream. Which is an image of the imageless.
I have QUESTIONED and CHALLENGED you about this "dreamer" thing BEFORE, and BEFORE you FAILED to back up and support YOUR CLAIM here.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:35 pm
It is not 'i' or 'I' that knows, these are concepts known.
To 'you' there is NOTHING that is KNOWN, correct? OH, except when 'you' TELL us 'you' KNOW the truth.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:35 pm
Concepts know no-thing, concepts are known by the ONLY knowing there is which is not a thing. Knowing is a verb, not a noun. Knowing is sometimes used as a noun but it is more often an adjective or a form of the verb to know. As No thing can know itself.
That which has no beginning nor end has no way of conceiving itself into a known, which implies a knower.
There is only KNOWING, one without a second, in other words, no one knows this.
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Okay. And ONCE AGAIN, if 'you' SAY and BELIEVE SO, then it MUST BE SO, correct?