uwot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:41 am
Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:22 am...the relevant neural network responsible for specific functions are not located in a specific location but spread all over the different parts of the brain.
It doesn't matter how the neural network is distributed. Your belief appears to be that every human has the same specific physical structures, presumably spread over the same "different parts of the brain". Given what is known about how neural networks develop, that is vanishingly unlikely.
All humans are "programmed" with the same
basic brain structures and basic functions.
The basic functions are located in certain specific parts of the brain while some are distributed within different parts.
Do you deny all humans has the same very fundamental specific physical neural network for the 4Fs, Food, Fight, Flight and Fuck?
There are also many other basic functions that inherent in all humans i.e. as human nature.
There are also inherent basic functions where they are active in some and not active in the majority.
For example note the evolution of living things and humans, there is core trend of one-up better than prior in all living things and very evident in humans. This fundamental
one-up impulse [active in some not so in the majority] for the optimal well being of the individual[s], is the fundamental of philosophy-proper.
Since this very basic function, i.e. the fundamental of philosophy-proper is inherent, [like others of the 4Fs], it would not be a problem for the HCP to trace the core neural networks and its connections to other parts of the brain and functions.
Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:22 amThe problem of consciousness is much more complex than the impulse for
philosophy-proper [continual improvement re well being] as such the latter will be easier to trace via the HCP.
I have the confidence the HCP can answer the 'hard problem of consciousness' but it should
narrow our ignorance-gap in the issue.
Then you don't understand the hard problem. It may well be that the HCP will show the exact location of consciousness, even if it is spread about. The hard problem is not where any critical neurons are, but how they result in experience.
Don’t be too hasty. I have already stated the hard problem of consciousness is much more complex.
As I had stated the HCP will not give us a definite answer but at least can
narrow our ignorance-gap to trace the physical neurons and their connectivities that enable human consciousness as an emergent.
Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:22 amBtw, your talk of 'surprise' 'don't know,' resistance to explore, infer, speculate and know' and pessimism are based on your present ignorance and failure to do the relevant readings and research.
Well, let's remind ourselves about what I don't know and that would surprise me:
uwot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:06 am...I would be surprised to find out that "philosophy proper" is some tangle of neurons.
If you can cure my ignorance in this regard by pointing me to the research that has discovered the neural network specific to what you call "philosophy proper", I would be grateful.
I have already explained above.
I have defined ‘philosophy-proper’ as an inherent and fundamental impulse which is very basic as close to breathing and the 4Fs. You are ignorant of this point and you connect ‘philosophy’ with academic philosophy and other bastardized forms of philosophy.
There is no need for research but rather it is a simply inference from basic knowledge of the neurosciences.
What research you need to update is on the HCP and its potential and optimism [in future generations] when it has achieved sufficient progress.