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Relativity Necessitates Absolutes

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All is relative necessitates context as absolute. Absolute truth exists through context, context through relation, relation through connection. Absolute truth exists given various phenomenon connect with this connection showing similarities repeat across said multiple phenomenon.

This connection, as similarities, can be observed in the example of 2+2=3+1, both equations connect through there sums as 4. 4 is the common median. This can be observed further in a horse and blade of grass, both exist as composed of cells. "Cell" is the common median. This commonality, which allows various phenomenon to equivocate, further necessitates somethings are not relative as they are unchanging.

This aspect of unchanging implies various phenomenon as having common sources which remain the same no matter how they are expressed.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:12 am All is relative necessitates context as absolute. Absolute truth exists through context, context through relation, relation through connection. Absolute truth exists given various phenomenon connect with this connection showing similarities repeat across said multiple phenomenon.

This connection, as similarities, can be observed in the example of 2+2=3+1, both equations connect through there sums as 4. 4 is the common median. This can be observed further in a horse and blade of grass, both exist as composed of cells. "Cell" is the common median. This commonality, which allows various phenomenon to equivocate, further necessitates somethings are not relative as they are unchanging.
The Fact that thee One and ONLY Universe is in constant-motion, or is constantly-changing, means that ALL things, or thee Universe, Itself, as One, is unchanging in that It IS always-changing.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:12 am This aspect of unchanging implies various phenomenon as having common sources which remain the same no matter how they are expressed.
ALL things are just the result of matter AND 'space' co-exist ALWAYS together, as One. The common sources for ALL things are EXACTLY the SAME.
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Age wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:54 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:12 am All is relative necessitates context as absolute. Absolute truth exists through context, context through relation, relation through connection. Absolute truth exists given various phenomenon connect with this connection showing similarities repeat across said multiple phenomenon.

This connection, as similarities, can be observed in the example of 2+2=3+1, both equations connect through there sums as 4. 4 is the common median. This can be observed further in a horse and blade of grass, both exist as composed of cells. "Cell" is the common median. This commonality, which allows various phenomenon to equivocate, further necessitates somethings are not relative as they are unchanging.
The Fact that thee One and ONLY Universe is in constant-motion, or is constantly-changing, means that ALL things, or thee Universe, Itself, as One, is unchanging in that It IS always-changing.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:12 am This aspect of unchanging implies various phenomenon as having common sources which remain the same no matter how they are expressed.
ALL things are just the result of matter AND 'space' co-exist ALWAYS together, as One. The common sources for ALL things are EXACTLY the SAME.
1. Unchanging change is a contradiction thus contradiction is the grounds for truth therefore necessitating all contradiction as having a truth value, if I contradict myself then I still state a truth.

2. If all things exist as One then the dichotomy of time and space is an illusion yet the illusion is observable as an illusion therefore illusions exist; reality is One and Many.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:56 pm
Age wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:54 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:12 am All is relative necessitates context as absolute. Absolute truth exists through context, context through relation, relation through connection. Absolute truth exists given various phenomenon connect with this connection showing similarities repeat across said multiple phenomenon.

This connection, as similarities, can be observed in the example of 2+2=3+1, both equations connect through there sums as 4. 4 is the common median. This can be observed further in a horse and blade of grass, both exist as composed of cells. "Cell" is the common median. This commonality, which allows various phenomenon to equivocate, further necessitates somethings are not relative as they are unchanging.
The Fact that thee One and ONLY Universe is in constant-motion, or is constantly-changing, means that ALL things, or thee Universe, Itself, as One, is unchanging in that It IS always-changing.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:12 am This aspect of unchanging implies various phenomenon as having common sources which remain the same no matter how they are expressed.
ALL things are just the result of matter AND 'space' co-exist ALWAYS together, as One. The common sources for ALL things are EXACTLY the SAME.
1. Unchanging change is a contradiction thus contradiction is the grounds for truth therefore necessitating all contradiction as having a truth value, if I contradict myself then I still state a truth.
But 'what', EXACTLY is, or could be, 'the truth' in the contradiction?
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:56 pm 2. If all things exist as One then the dichotomy of time and space is an illusion yet the illusion is observable as an illusion therefore illusions exist; reality is One and Many.
What do the words 'time' and 'space' actually mean or refer to, to you?
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:12 am All is relative necessitates context as absolute.
Absolute truth exists through context, context through relation, relation through connection.
Your argument is circular,

1. All relative [relations] necessitates absolute,
2. Absolute necessitates relation [relativity].

In the above case you are referring to a relative-absolute and not an absolutely-absolute.

An absolutely-absolute is absolutely unconditional thus do not necessitate relations.
As such all relations are independent of the absolutely-absolute, e.g. God or The Absolute in capital 'A'.
In philosophy, the Absolute is the term used for the ultimate or most supreme being, usually conceived as either encompassing "the sum of all being, actual and potential",[1] or otherwise transcending the concept of "being" altogether.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_(philosophy)
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Age wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:04 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:56 pm
Age wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:54 am

The Fact that thee One and ONLY Universe is in constant-motion, or is constantly-changing, means that ALL things, or thee Universe, Itself, as One, is unchanging in that It IS always-changing.


ALL things are just the result of matter AND 'space' co-exist ALWAYS together, as One. The common sources for ALL things are EXACTLY the SAME.
1. Unchanging change is a contradiction thus contradiction is the grounds for truth therefore necessitating all contradiction as having a truth value, if I contradict myself then I still state a truth.
But 'what', EXACTLY is, or could be, 'the truth' in the contradiction?
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:56 pm 2. If all things exist as One then the dichotomy of time and space is an illusion yet the illusion is observable as an illusion therefore illusions exist; reality is One and Many.
What do the words 'time' and 'space' actually mean or refer to, to you?
1. The truth in a contradiction is the observation the contradiction exists and dually is composed of non-contradictory elements which exist (ie 2+2=5 contains "2", "5" which are not contradictions).

2. Space is being as being is composed of limits (curves, lines, points). Time is the manifestation of space through space as space; time is change.
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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:18 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:12 am All is relative necessitates context as absolute.
Absolute truth exists through context, context through relation, relation through connection.
Your argument is circular,

1. All relative [relations] necessitates absolute,
2. Absolute necessitates relation [relativity].

In the above case you are referring to a relative-absolute and not an absolutely-absolute.

An absolutely-absolute is absolutely unconditional thus do not necessitate relations.
As such all relations are independent of the absolutely-absolute, e.g. God or The Absolute in capital 'A'.
In philosophy, the Absolute is the term used for the ultimate or most supreme being, usually conceived as either encompassing "the sum of all being, actual and potential",[1] or otherwise transcending the concept of "being" altogether.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_(philosophy)

1. It is absolute context exists.

2. Context through context necessitates the relation of contexts thus context is relative.

3. The relativity of contexts is a context thus context is absolute.

4. Context is both relative and absolute.

****Context as absolute exists through itself as context thus context is a thing in itself. The multiplicity of contexts, where context contrasts to another, necessitates each context as distinct thus a thing in itself as it is independent of further contexts in the respect it stands alone as a singular entity. The uniqueness of each being necessitates each being as a thing in itself given it stands alone.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:37 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:18 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:12 am All is relative necessitates context as absolute.
Absolute truth exists through context, context through relation, relation through connection.
Your argument is circular,

1. All relative [relations] necessitates absolute,
2. Absolute necessitates relation [relativity].

In the above case you are referring to a relative-absolute and not an absolutely-absolute.

An absolutely-absolute is absolutely unconditional thus do not necessitate relations.
As such all relations are independent of the absolutely-absolute, e.g. God or The Absolute in capital 'A'.
In philosophy, the Absolute is the term used for the ultimate or most supreme being, usually conceived as either encompassing "the sum of all being, actual and potential",[1] or otherwise transcending the concept of "being" altogether.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_(philosophy)

1. It is absolute context exists.

2. Context through context necessitates the relation of contexts thus context is relative.

3. The relativity of contexts is a context thus context is absolute.

4. Context is both relative and absolute.

****Context as absolute exists through itself as context thus context is a thing in itself. The multiplicity of contexts, where context contrasts to another, necessitates each context as distinct thus a thing in itself as it is independent of further contexts in the respect it stands alone as a singular entity. The uniqueness of each being necessitates each being as a thing in itself given it stands alone.
Note:

Context
-the situation in which something happens : the group of conditions that exist where and when something happens.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/context

Absolute [absolutely]
means it is totally unconditional.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_(philosophy)

No matter how you spin there is no reconciliation between what is 'context' and the absolute [absolutely]*.

* to contrast from relative-absolute e.g. absolute temperature, absolute monarch, absolute power which are all conditional.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:31 pm
Age wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:04 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:56 pm

1. Unchanging change is a contradiction thus contradiction is the grounds for truth therefore necessitating all contradiction as having a truth value, if I contradict myself then I still state a truth.
But 'what', EXACTLY is, or could be, 'the truth' in the contradiction?
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:56 pm 2. If all things exist as One then the dichotomy of time and space is an illusion yet the illusion is observable as an illusion therefore illusions exist; reality is One and Many.
What do the words 'time' and 'space' actually mean or refer to, to you?
1. The truth in a contradiction is the observation the contradiction exists and dually is composed of non-contradictory elements which exist (ie 2+2=5 contains "2", "5" which are not contradictions).

2. Space is being as being is composed of limits (curves, lines, points). Time is the manifestation of space through space as space; time is change.
Well now that that is SETTLED, absolutely EVERY thing is CLEAR, correct?
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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:51 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:37 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:18 am
Your argument is circular,

1. All relative [relations] necessitates absolute,
2. Absolute necessitates relation [relativity].

In the above case you are referring to a relative-absolute and not an absolutely-absolute.

An absolutely-absolute is absolutely unconditional thus do not necessitate relations.
As such all relations are independent of the absolutely-absolute, e.g. God or The Absolute in capital 'A'.


1. It is absolute context exists.

2. Context through context necessitates the relation of contexts thus context is relative.

3. The relativity of contexts is a context thus context is absolute.

4. Context is both relative and absolute.

****Context as absolute exists through itself as context thus context is a thing in itself. The multiplicity of contexts, where context contrasts to another, necessitates each context as distinct thus a thing in itself as it is independent of further contexts in the respect it stands alone as a singular entity. The uniqueness of each being necessitates each being as a thing in itself given it stands alone.
Note:

Context
-the situation in which something happens : the group of conditions that exist where and when something happens.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/context

Absolute [absolutely]
means it is totally unconditional.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_(philosophy)

No matter how you spin there is no reconciliation between what is 'context' and the absolute [absolutely]*.

* to contrast from relative-absolute e.g. absolute temperature, absolute monarch, absolute power which are all conditional.
All being summated as context makes the context unconditional as it only relates to itself therefore only itself exists; context is absolute. Conditions are "being" and "being" is absolute as only "being" exists. Being conditioned on being is just Being; conditions are thus unconditional as only conditions exist.

Context results in further context; conditions, as context, results in further conditions. Conditions as context and contexts as conditions are being expressing itself through being. This self-reflection of the one being is absolute as being is only conditional to itself which makes it conditioned on nothing given only being exists.

Being as condition on nothing, as only being exists, makes being absolute.

To be relative to oneself is to be relative to nothing thus no relativity.
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Age wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:14 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:31 pm
Age wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:04 am

But 'what', EXACTLY is, or could be, 'the truth' in the contradiction?


What do the words 'time' and 'space' actually mean or refer to, to you?
1. The truth in a contradiction is the observation the contradiction exists and dually is composed of non-contradictory elements which exist (ie 2+2=5 contains "2", "5" which are not contradictions).

2. Space is being as being is composed of limits (curves, lines, points). Time is the manifestation of space through space as space; time is change.
Well now that that is SETTLED, absolutely EVERY thing is CLEAR, correct?
And what if it not clear? Does that make it any less in existence?
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:32 am
Age wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:14 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:31 pm

1. The truth in a contradiction is the observation the contradiction exists and dually is composed of non-contradictory elements which exist (ie 2+2=5 contains "2", "5" which are not contradictions).

2. Space is being as being is composed of limits (curves, lines, points). Time is the manifestation of space through space as space; time is change.
Well now that that is SETTLED, absolutely EVERY thing is CLEAR, correct?
And what if it not clear? Does that make it any less in existence?
I just asked you a CLARIFYING QUESTION, form a Truly OPEN perspective. And, by the way, the ANSWER to the QUESTION is either a 'Yes' or a 'No'.

Also, I have absolutely NO clue NOR idea about what the 'it' word in your response is referring to, EXACTLY.
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Age wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:55 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:32 am
Age wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:14 am

Well now that that is SETTLED, absolutely EVERY thing is CLEAR, correct?
And what if it not clear? Does that make it any less in existence?
I just asked you a CLARIFYING QUESTION, form a Truly OPEN perspective. And, by the way, the ANSWER to the QUESTION is either a 'Yes' or a 'No'.

Also, I have absolutely NO clue NOR idea about what the 'it' word in your response is referring to, EXACTLY.
1. Truth occurs in grades thus Yes/No apply simultaneously.

2. "It" refers to "that" in "that is settled"; "that that is SETTLED" is your point of view.
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