Note the meaning of well-being,RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:57 pmWho decides what is, "optimal' well being?" Or, for that matter, what is the, "optimal well being?" Optimal for what end or purpose?Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:30 amHow come you cannot grasp the "objective, purpose, end, or goal relative to which something is good or bad" in my above statement plus I had already stated that many times which is,RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:07 pm
Values are terms of relationship. Nothing is just, "good," or, "bad." There must first be some objective, purpose, end, or goal relative to which something is good or bad. You have never identified the objective or goal that mankind is supposedly good for, what purpose mankind's existence serves or end it achieves.
"whatever acts that are net-positive to the well being of the individual[s] and therefrom to humanity."
I missed out my often mentioned 'optimal' well being.
The objective, purpose, end or goal is the 'optimal well-being of the individual[s]' and that of humanity.
If all the individual[s] in the world do not strive optimize their well-being then it will effect the optimal well-being of humanity.
If killing of humans is a universal [evil], then the well-being of individual[s] will net-negative and therefrom a threat to the optimal well-being of humanity, the threat of the extinction of the species.
While killing of humans is an obvious evilness of >90%, any high frequencies of those acts of lesser degrees of evilness will still pose a threat to the individual[s] and that of humanity.
This is why the basic standard objective of each individual[s] is to breathe and survive optimally till the inevitable; while humanity will rely upon the principles of large number [now nearing 8 billion - there is limitation to this] to ensure its preservation.
You are just replacing some mystical intrinsic, "good," with another mystical value term, "optimal well being." It identifies nothing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Well-being
Whatever the well-being it must be overridden by the principles of morality.
"Optimal" means doing the best one can within one's whatever existing constraints.
There is a wide range of things and acts that is considered 'good' in optimizing one's well-being.
The ability and ensuring one as breathing is an inherent good for all humans, thus objective, what is so mystical about it?
Whatever other 'good' in other cases is related to the above, i.e. nothing mystical about it.