Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:20 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:35 pm
An absolute miniscule cost to produce a just about never ending and completely pollution free source of energy, which could support a population far greater than the one that currently exists when this is being written, WILL come in to existence.
However, before this will be devised and created first things first. What creates and causes human made climate change needs to stopped first.
After all prevention is, obviously, better than the cure. What causes human made climate change is greedy and selfish human beings love of money. Why do adult human beings have a 'love of money'? Because of the way they were brought up.
So, when adult human beings STOP being greedy and selfish, through their 'love of money', then they will STOP teaching their children to 'love money' and 'be greedy', which, in turn, will help prevent human made climate change.
When things are dreamed up, devised, planned, constructed, and created for the betterment of ALL of humankind, instead of for a monetary and profit seeking reason, then, and ONLY THEN, will the newly devised pollution free and much less resource reliant energy source be finalized and come to fruition.
Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:27 pmIs this a religious thing with you?
Age wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:31 pmNo. WHY would you have even begun TO ASSUME such a thing?
I asked you a question to find out where you're coming from.
I have asked you a myriad of questions, to gain clarity/find out where you are coming from, but you have yet to answer just one of them.
Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:20 pm
So, you're a communist?
What you wrote here is a statement, with a question mark at the end. So, are you here asking me a question, or are you telling me some thing?
And, WHY you would want to use the 'communist' word, especially when considering all of what I have actually written, only you would truly know.
Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:20 pm
Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:27 pm
Love of money is the root of all evil?
No it is not. The 'love of money' is third on the list of all evil.
If you could send me a PDF of the full list, that would be super!
Okay.
But it would be much easier for me to just write the list down in words in a reply to you here.
Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:20 pm
Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:27 pm Maybe that's so, but money is also the author of a far greater amount of good. The world's 100 year long experiment in comparative economics shows that communism did not provide the motive for innovation, and did not produce prosperity for the people.
You do have a very narrowed and short sighted view of things.
Not since I got spectacles!
My point, now proven.
Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:20 pm
Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:27 pm
No-one was leaping over the Berlin Wall to get into East Germany. Rather, under communism, because nothing is owned, everyone steals - and production breaks down.
Age wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:31 pmWHEN will you STOP making theae completely Wrong and absurd assumptions?
When I got spectacles!
I said, 'When WILL you ...?' Not, 'When DID you ...?'
Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:20 pm
Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:27 pm
Beneath the official communist economy develops a capitalist black market. Bribery, barter and long queues for bread.
Once you make an ASSUMPTION you really stick with it, hey?
I dated a very intelligent woman from the former soviet union.
Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:27 pm
Is that what you want?
Nothing of the sort.
Good!
Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:27 pm Personally, I'd rather be walking along with a tenner in my pocket, and see some guy pass me in a beautifully engineered sports car - I'll never earn enough in my entire life to afford, than see both of us walking along with fuck all.
Okay. But this is completely off topic.
No, it's not, because the left wing environmental narrative has been focused through the lens of equalitarian anti-capitalist politics since the 1960's, and created a widespread false assumption that sustainability requires sacrifice. It doesn't.
So what? Many people have said many things. BUT, I have NEVER said NOR talked about ANY such things. So, WHY bring up such off topic things in replies to what I have actually said and written?
Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:20 pm
It requires massive clean energy. That's what this thread is about, so it's entirely on topic. I love inequality. It means someone has been able to succeed - doing something socially beneficial, and profiting from it.
LOL Just about absolutely EVERY thing 'you', human beings, have done, for profit, is what is causing the Wrong in the world, including 'climate change'.
You really can NOT look at this without money, and monetary gain, being involved, right?
Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:20 pm
In some small part, it benefits me if others succeed - even if it's only that I get to see a cool sportscar I'll never be able to afford.
You REALLY are stuck and fixated.
Wanting things 'you', human beings, do NOT need is WHY 'you' are in such the mess 'you' are, in the days when this is being written.
Rid "yourselves" of your wanting, greedy, and monetary ways FIRST, then you can begin planning ways to get MORE than you have ever dreamed of, up to now, without ANY one suffering nor missing out.
Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:27 pm If you can overcome jealousy - capitalism is awesome!
For who?
It's a long list. Let's start with slavery. If it weren't for capitalism providing for personal economic and political freedom, we'd still have slavery.[/quote]
LOL It was because of capitalism slavery came into existence.
By the way, slavery is NOT a who.
Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:20 pm
It was the way of the world since the dawn of time.
LOL You really do have a very narrowed and short sighted field of view.
Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:20 pm
Under communism you are not an individual. You are a factor of planned production. So it cannot be argued that communism overcomes slavery when people are owned and disposed of by the state; often in numbers that make Hitler look like an amateur genocidal maniac.
Are you at all able to look at any thing other than 'capitalism' and 'communism'?
Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:20 pm
Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:27 pm
And magma energy aligns the capitalist interest with sustainability - by giving us massive clean energy to sustain a prosperous future.
If you say so. But what you say here has absolutely NOTHING AT ALL to do with what I have said and talked about.
These things may seem unconnected to you, but let me assure you it's all related. I've been around the block more times that I can remember, and if you will but listen - rather than fight me every step, I'll give you the benefit of things I've learned.
You really are MORE CLOSED than I had first noticed.