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henry quirk wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:00 pm Hey, you asked...
Lacewing wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:21 am What do you think I don't see, Henry?
...I answered. if you don't like, agree with, or understand my answer: that ain't my problem.
I didn't realize you were so full of projections and false conclusions. :lol:
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Lacewing wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:50 pm
henry quirk wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:00 pm Hey, you asked...
Lacewing wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:21 am What do you think I don't see, Henry?
...I answered. if you don't like, agree with, or understand my answer: that ain't my problem.
I didn't realize you were so full of projections and false conclusions. :lol:
I'm thinkin' there's a lot you're not realizin'.
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Lacewing wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:50 pm
henry quirk wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:00 pm Hey, you asked...
Lacewing wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:21 am What do you think I don't see, Henry?
...I answered. if you don't like, agree with, or understand my answer: that ain't my problem.
I didn't realize you were so full of projections and false conclusions. :lol:
You asked "henry quirk" what "henry quirk" thinks you are not seeing "lacewing", so "henry quirk" does what you ask for. But, instead of just accepting that that is what "Henry quirk" thinks or sees, you go straight into your usual accusations of "projecting" and "false conclusions".

If you do NOT want to hear the truth, from "another's" perspective, especially in regards to 'you', then I suggest that you do NOT ask them what they think, nor see.

Also, when "another" is just expressing their honest thoughts, in this forum, and you have this constant accussation of 'projecting', have you ever stopped to consider that you are 'projecting' AS WELL?
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Age wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:44 pm
Lacewing wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:50 pm
henry quirk wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:00 pm Hey, you asked...



...I answered. if you don't like, agree with, or understand my answer: that ain't my problem.
I didn't realize you were so full of projections and false conclusions. :lol:
You asked "henry quirk" what "henry quirk" thinks you are not seeing "lacewing", so "henry quirk" does what you ask for. But, instead of just accepting that that is what "Henry quirk" thinks or sees, you go straight into your usual accusations of "projecting" and "false conclusions".

If you do NOT want to hear the truth, from "another's" perspective, especially in regards to 'you', then I suggest that you do NOT ask them what they think, nor see.

Also, when "another" is just expressing their honest thoughts, in this forum, and you have this constant accussation of 'projecting', have you ever stopped to consider that you are 'projecting' AS WELL?
give 'er hell, age
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henry quirk wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:27 pm
Age wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:44 pm
Lacewing wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:50 pm
I didn't realize you were so full of projections and false conclusions. :lol:
You asked "henry quirk" what "henry quirk" thinks you are not seeing "lacewing", so "henry quirk" does what you ask for. But, instead of just accepting that that is what "Henry quirk" thinks or sees, you go straight into your usual accusations of "projecting" and "false conclusions".

If you do NOT want to hear the truth, from "another's" perspective, especially in regards to 'you', then I suggest that you do NOT ask them what they think, nor see.

Also, when "another" is just expressing their honest thoughts, in this forum, and you have this constant accussation of 'projecting', have you ever stopped to consider that you are 'projecting' AS WELL?
give 'er hell, age
Do neither of you understand the difference between thinking and projecting?
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henry quirk wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:02 pm I'm thinkin' there's a lot you're not realizin'.
I often think the same about you. We just have different viewpoints and methods. I've acknowledged the things I agree with you on -- but you seem less inclined to do so, instead arguing or presenting your 'more accurate answer'?
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henry quirk wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:27 pm
Age wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:44 pm
Lacewing wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:50 pm
I didn't realize you were so full of projections and false conclusions. :lol:
You asked "henry quirk" what "henry quirk" thinks you are not seeing "lacewing", so "henry quirk" does what you ask for. But, instead of just accepting that that is what "Henry quirk" thinks or sees, you go straight into your usual accusations of "projecting" and "false conclusions".

If you do NOT want to hear the truth, from "another's" perspective, especially in regards to 'you', then I suggest that you do NOT ask them what they think, nor see.

Also, when "another" is just expressing their honest thoughts, in this forum, and you have this constant accussation of 'projecting', have you ever stopped to consider that you are 'projecting' AS WELL?
give 'er hell, age
I just ask CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, from the Truly OPEN perspective, EQUALLY to EVERY one here.

And, I do NOT give ANY one any more nor any less of ANY thing here.

I also just express, by POINTING OUT and SHOWING, just what I RECOGNIZE, SEE, and OBSERVE here, EQUALLY.
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Lacewing wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:33 am
henry quirk wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:27 pm
Age wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:44 pm

You asked "henry quirk" what "henry quirk" thinks you are not seeing "lacewing", so "henry quirk" does what you ask for. But, instead of just accepting that that is what "Henry quirk" thinks or sees, you go straight into your usual accusations of "projecting" and "false conclusions".

If you do NOT want to hear the truth, from "another's" perspective, especially in regards to 'you', then I suggest that you do NOT ask them what they think, nor see.

Also, when "another" is just expressing their honest thoughts, in this forum, and you have this constant accussation of 'projecting', have you ever stopped to consider that you are 'projecting' AS WELL?
give 'er hell, age
Do neither of you understand the difference between thinking and projecting?
I have a perspective, which, obviously, might be very different from your perspective of the difference between those two things.

Were you under some sort of ILLUSION, or ASSUMING, that there is ONLY One difference between 'thinking' and 'projecting'?
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Lacewing wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:51 am
henry quirk wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:02 pm I'm thinkin' there's a lot you're not realizin'.
I often think the same about you. We just have different viewpoints and methods. I've acknowledged the things I agree with you on -- but you seem less inclined to do so, instead arguing or presenting your 'more accurate answer'?
Do you feel a 'need' to be informed when one agrees with you or would you like to be informed when we agree with you?

If yes, then I will pay more attention of doing this, for you.
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henry quirk wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:07 am Here's an experiment demonstrating it.

Get yourself a piece of paper.

On it, write "0"

But before you write "0", this experiment requires you first have to have already written "-1."

But before you write "-1", you have to already have written "-2".

And before that, you already have to have written "-3", "-4", "-5," and so on, back to infinity.

That models an infinite regress of causes, because each integer is a prerequisite for the next one, just like each cause in an infinite regress is the prerequisite of the effect associated with it.

So just sit down with some paper, and try to do it.

And then respond as soon as you've managed to write "0," or when you realize the truth: that there will never come a point when you can write even a single integer, let alone reach the "0" point (i.e. the present).

And just as you can never start writing, so too a universe can never begin if it requires an infinite chain of causes.


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Where all the integers lead is uncaused cause . Do you and Immanuel agree?
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Lacewing wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:51 am
henry quirk wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:02 pm I'm thinkin' there's a lot you're not realizin'.
We just have different viewpoints and methods.
"Down to earth," vs. "away with the fairies."
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RCSaunders wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:39 pm
Lacewing wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:51 am
henry quirk wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:02 pm I'm thinkin' there's a lot you're not realizin'.
We just have different viewpoints and methods.
"Down to earth," vs. "away with the fairies."
who is which?
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Belinda wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:41 am
henry quirk wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:07 am Here's an experiment demonstrating it.

Get yourself a piece of paper.

On it, write "0"

But before you write "0", this experiment requires you first have to have already written "-1."

But before you write "-1", you have to already have written "-2".

And before that, you already have to have written "-3", "-4", "-5," and so on, back to infinity.

That models an infinite regress of causes, because each integer is a prerequisite for the next one, just like each cause in an infinite regress is the prerequisite of the effect associated with it.

So just sit down with some paper, and try to do it.

And then respond as soon as you've managed to write "0," or when you realize the truth: that there will never come a point when you can write even a single integer, let alone reach the "0" point (i.e. the present).

And just as you can never start writing, so too a universe can never begin if it requires an infinite chain of causes.


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Where all the integers lead is uncaused cause . Do you and Immanuel agree?
If you mean: do we agree that God is the unmoved mover?

Yes (though we currently differ on His details).
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Age wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:29 am
Lacewing wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:51 am
henry quirk wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:02 pm I'm thinkin' there's a lot you're not realizin'.
I often think the same about you. We just have different viewpoints and methods. I've acknowledged the things I agree with you on -- but you seem less inclined to do so, instead arguing or presenting your 'more accurate answer'?
Do you feel a 'need' to be informed when one agrees with you or would you like to be informed when we agree with you?

If yes, then I will pay more attention of doing this, for you.
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henry quirk wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:43 pm
RCSaunders wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:39 pm
Lacewing wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:51 am
We just have different viewpoints and methods.
"Down to earth," vs. "away with the fairies."
who is which?
Good question. What do you think?
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