Yes, what we learn in life are the experiences true for us, i.e., as we interpret them. It’s certainly true others may interpret it differently, perhaps even more objectively. Truth has always been the easiest label to apply to whatever seems the most expedient, endorsing what it refers to as necessity instead of an act of will. There is a huge difference between something being true and Truth per se.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:39 pmIt does seem true "that truth remains relative to what we believe to be true" if truth is determined by our own decision, or whimsy. Yet I think that most all of us would, if pressed, actually present some pretty defined and solid notion of *the true* -- when we have made a careful analysis of what we have learned in living life.
Life is not a sequence of established priorities in terms of what is true or not. In that respect, her statement...Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:39 pmMy sense of it, when Lacewing speaks of there always being something more beyond any specific concretization of values or principles, is that she does not elucidate some actionable content, but proposes a somewhat abstract idea, as a challenge to those who work within defined systems. So when she says (or if you were to say) that we should explore the possible and put aside trying to define what is true, I did not take it that she is not interested in what is true, but simply desires to have more open possibilities before her.
What if we notice and explore what is possible, rather than arguing over the nebulous notion of 'what is true'?
...is very much an organic expression of life’s usual dynamic. Nature has never danced to any Truth waltz.
Not really! History has already done that work in creating a chronology of both intentional lies and involuntary errors.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:39 pmSince your position is one where you expose and confront the "plethora of highly rationalized indoctrinated lies" you have your work before you.
Honestly, I have no idea what you’re asking for regarding an “active or propositional” side!Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:39 pmI think your view and your critique must have an 'active' side, a propositional side. If so what is it?