Harry Baird wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 5:20 am
Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 12:43 pm
I am curious to know if you’ve studied much natural history? Is your view of nature romantic?
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Do you have a (non-romantic) contrary argument?
I'd be happy to answer your questions - and I have compelling answers - but just as to you...
Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 12:43 pm
This is not an unimportant issue
...getting closure on our prior misunderstanding is not unimportant to me, so, if you would be kind enough to first respond to this question...
Harry Baird wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 6:05 am
Does that seem plausible and fair?
...with one of the following two options, or an alternative one of your choosing if you prefer to be non-binary (which, in 2023,
does seem to be a valid choice), then it would be much appreciated:
Yes sir, let's move on.
No bro, we need to hash this out some more.
I read this again:
By that I mean that I think that by "the actual bleeping truth" you misunderstood me as referring merely to descriptive truth, whereas I was actually referring to both descriptive and prescriptive (i.e., moral) truth.
I understood you as feeling frustrated that “the real snd actual truth” about what is moral and immoral (but there must be much much more, no?) is not clearly and definitively (objectively) known. Provable. Demonstrable.
I associate the phrase “the bleeping” or “the bloody truth” with many views and perceptions you have shared in the past. I associate your
will (to define things in certain ways — for example that it is ethically problematic to snip tea leaves from a tea tree — as indicating a man in a frustrating, and unsolvable, personal situation.
As you may remember I once cajoled you that with your philosophy you chose such thorough renunciation that you became thoroughly tied up and unable to act — whereas in my philosophy I tended to see man as caught in a conundrum and yet justifying action (colonialism for example) with self-deceptive arguments.
I write here (selfishly if you wish) to clarify my own views and choices. I note a great deal of “noise” here (over the last pages for example) that does not get to an actionable core, but it is that core that interests me.