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Look out any window.
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simplicity wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:34 pm Look out any window.
I think I need to clean the bird shit off.
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Sculptor wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:42 pm
simplicity wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:34 pm Look out any window.
I think I need to clean the bird shit off.
I believe you will find that said excrement is beyond the pain.
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When I look out my window I mostly notice all of the beautiful women walking by.
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Terrapin Station wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:30 am When I look out my window I mostly notice all of the beautiful women walking by.
Are New York men really the horniest on the planet, or is that just a carefully cultivated front?
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Imagine! said Einstein. Am I getting hotter/colder?
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Fja1 wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:56 am Imagine! said Einstein. Am I getting hotter/colder?
The idea is that man's attempt to improve upon Reality [via conceptual thought] continues to be an abject failure. Conceptual thinking takes what is and transforms it into what is thought to be [which almost always seems to be some kind of bizarre dystopian reality].

Instead of imagining, perhaps accepting what it is might serve our species better.
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simplicity wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:52 amThe idea is that man's attempt to improve upon Reality [via conceptual thought] continues to be an abject failure. Conceptual thinking takes what is and transforms it into what is thought to be [which almost always seems to be some kind of bizarre dystopian reality].
And the converse of conceptual thinking is, what... psychological thinking, or psychological (see Jacoby on) understanding or (ap)perception? Not to understand another person's reasoning, but to understand him psychologically? (E. g. Schopenhauer's Die Kunst, Recht zu behalten)
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:34 am
Terrapin Station wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:30 am When I look out my window I mostly notice all of the beautiful women walking by.
Are New York men really the horniest on the planet, or is that just a carefully cultivated front?
Who else were you thinking of? (I'm just curious who else was saying something like I said above.)
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to over rate anything requires thought

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simplicity wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:33 pm
Sculptor wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:42 pm
simplicity wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:34 pm Look out any window.
I think I need to clean the bird shit off.
I believe you will find that said excrement is beyond the pain.
What is "the" pain?
If you mean cleaning it off is not worth the trouble you are wrong. You should see my garden.
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Sculptor wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 3:48 pm
simplicity wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:33 pm
Sculptor wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:42 pm

I think I need to clean the bird shit off.
I believe you will find that said excrement is beyond the pain.
What is "the" pain?
If you mean cleaning it off is not worth the trouble you are wrong. You should see my garden.
It was a play on words [window pane]. Being that the pain is a product of our conceptual thinking, cleaning it off is not only worthwhile, it is an imperative to creating balance in one's life.
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Fja1 wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:43 am
simplicity wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:52 amThe idea is that man's attempt to improve upon Reality [via conceptual thought] continues to be an abject failure. Conceptual thinking takes what is and transforms it into what is thought to be [which almost always seems to be some kind of bizarre dystopian reality].
And the converse of conceptual thinking is, what... psychological thinking, or psychological (see Jacoby on) understanding or (ap)perception? Not to understand another person's reasoning, but to understand him psychologically? (E. g. Schopenhauer's Die Kunst, Recht zu behalten)
You can only understand somebody's actions, never their motivations. There are an infinite number of reasons why people do the simplest of things, therefore it is beyond human comprehension.
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Impenitent wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:11 pm to over rate anything requires thought

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Exactly.
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simplicity wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:05 pmYou can only understand somebody's actions, never their motivations. There are an infinite number of reasons why people do the simplest of things, therefore it is beyond human comprehension.
No, but you can trigger others' actions psychologically, even without much conceptual thinking. That's what the Schopenhauer book is about.
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