What is philosophy?

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Re: What is philosophy?

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Age wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:03 amI have ALLUDED to that if one WANTS to CLAIM that red shift is 'evidence' for expansion, then those same ones will HAVE TO ADMIT that blue shift is 'evidence' for contraction.
Then you don't understand the difference between 100 and 1 000 000 000 000.
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Re: What is philosophy?

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Age wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:11 am
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:19 am
Age wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:19 am

So what? Were ANY of them True, Right, Accurate, or Correct?

If no, then you can either LOOK AT EVERY thing else from now on and continue to MAKE ASSUMPTIONS based on those previous experiences or you can do things DIFFERENTLY. The choices is yours, and yours ALONE.

You also appear to be COMPLETELY and UTTERLY CONFUSING the word 'belief' here with the 'God' or the 'True Self' words.



When, and IF, you START looking at future words put before you NOT as 'beliefs' but as 'just words', then you WILL START being able to SEE things MORE CLEARLY.

Also, because previous words put before you were NOT proven true, do you BELIEVE that ALL future words put before you, regarding some issues, will also ALWAYS NOT be proven true?

If yes, then WHY?

What are you basing this PRESUMPTION on EXACTLY?



Okay.



What is the 'it', which the 'you' is referring to here now?




THANK YOU profusely here "atla".

You are SHOWING how a Truly OPEN being a human being can be, and thus also SHOWING how Truly INTELLIGENT human beings can REALLY and Truly BE.

Now to SHOW or REVEAL what 'God', or thee True Self, ACTUALLY IS, we just NEED to LOOK AT and DISCUSS what ACTUALLY EXISTS.

Those who are Truly OPEN and Truly CURIOS, WILL BEGIN.

What ACTUALLY EXISTS is what ACTUALLY IS, and PROVIDES, the PROOF.

i do NOT provide NOR show the proof. i am just learning how to find the right words to explain to you HOW you can and will FIND and SEE the PROOF "your self".

See, people will only SEE the things that THEY 'want to see', and so people will only LOOK FOR the 'PROOF' that THEY 'want to see', as well. Which means, IF people REALLY WANT to SEE proof for SOME thing, then they will do what it takes to LOOK FOR and TO FIND that PROOF.

But, if someone ALREADY has a PRECONCEIVED idea about what some thing is, then they will only be LOOKING in a particular way for that particular THING. Meanwhile they will MISS and NOT SEE thee ACTUAL Truth of things, which is ACTUALLY PASSING THEM BY.
So you will NOT provide NOR show proof for your claims.
I HAVE SHOWN PARTS of the PROOF for my claims.

Have you NOT SEEN THEM YET?

If you have NOT YET SEEN those parts, then there is NO USE in SHOWING you the REST, correct?

By the way, I have even asked you what is the 'it', which you are talking about in relation to PROOF. But you do NOT even have the ABILITY or DECENCY to ANSWER and CLARIFY.
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:19 am
Then your treatment as just another generic nutjob is justified, you have no proof.
LOL

The sun revolves around the earth RIGHT?
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:19 am By the way, millions before you already tried the "you have to see it for yourself" thing too, didn't work either.
Do you have ANY IDEA WHY that did NOT WORK?

In case you have MISSED SOMETHING HERE, then the REASON WHY is BECAUSE the HOW has NOT YET been EXPLAINED.

Do ANY of 'you', human beings, in the days when this is being written, KNOW HOW to SEE 'It' YET?

OF COURSE NOT.

Unless, OF COURSE, there are some who have NOT YET EXPRESSED 'HOW'.

'you', "atla", OBVIOUSLY do NOT KNOW HOW, correct?
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:19 am (Which you would know if you had any sort of connection to the real world, some vaguest idea about humans and history.)
LOL

Human and history is just PLAIN OBVIOUS.

And, 'you', "atla", like the rest of 'you', human beings, throughout history ASSUME way to much, for your own good.

Physical matter continues in its completely, and ONLY, NATURAL way of continually changing in shape and form. Physical matter formed into the shape of the human body. This body evolved to have five senses, which is what is able to observe and/or experiences the Universe, around it. Through these five senses information enters the brain, which this information is gathered and stored as thoughts and memories. The sixth sense, within the human body, is thee Mind, of which there is ONLY One, throughout the WHOLE of the Universe. This Mind is Truly FREE and OPEN and allows matter to be able to do, create, and achieve whatever is imagined. Matter evolved into the shape and form of the human brain, this formation became able to further form language, from, and about, the 'world', the body experiences, around it. Through the sharing of this language of 'things', 'things' become gradually MORE KNOWN, or MORE CLEARER.

Because of language, from the five senses, and the sixth sense, which is Truly OPEN, ALL imaginings can be SHARED with other human bodies of matter.

However, because the Mind allows absolutely ANY thing to be imagined, and the human brain is formed into being able to gather and store absolutely ANY information, sent to it through the five sense, ANY and ALL information gathered and stored can be IMAGINED to be true, right, or correct, when, in fact, it is ACTUALLY False, Wrong, and/or Incorrect, relative to the Universe, Itself.

Now, because human beings, themselves, have the ability to learn, understand, and reason absolutely ANY and EVERY thing, they also have the ability to "reason" 'that', which is ACTUALLY False, Wrong, and Incorrect, as actually being true, right, and/or correct, but ONLY to themselves, ONLY. For example, flat earth, sun revolving around earth, Universe expansion, and/or Universe beginning. And whenever ANY 'thought' is BELIEVED to be true, then NO AMOUNT of what is ACTUALLY True, Right, and Correct can be PRESENTED to sway the 'thought' into CORRECTION. while that 'thought' is BELIEVED TRUE. That is; WHILE the 'thought' is BELIEVED to be true, right, or correct.

And that is a very short summary of human and history, up to when this was being written.

In the future, to those times, adult human beings learned HOW to rid themselves of ALL those BELIEFS and ASSUMPTIONS that they were continually coming up with, which in turn ALLOWED them SO VERY EASILY and SO VERY SIMPLY to just SEE what thee ACTUAL Truth IS, which then helped them TREMENDOUSLY in creating and achieving thee ACTUAL 'world', which they ALL IMAGINED OF and REALLY WANTED to live in.

The speed of this TURN AROUND was EXPONENTIAL as they had CHANGED themselves, through VOLUNTARY ENTHUSIASM, and because the TURN AROUND was in a NATURAL FLOW and BALANCE with "their" NATURAL Being. Although it took hundreds and hundreds of thousands of years to evolve to where they were, when this was written, the TURN AROUND only takes/took (depending on one's perspective) a couple of generations. Again, this VERY QUICK CHANGE is just because of FOLLOWING the NATURAL FLOW of things, instead of 'trying to' reorder NATURE, Itself, to how one species WANTED things to be.
Here is A PRIME and PERFECT EXAMPLE of one 'trying to' "justify" their OBVIOUSLY Wrong behavior and treatment of "others".

This one ACTUALLY BELIEVES that if "another" does NOT JUMP and do what they WANT, then they have the "right" to mis/treat the "other", ANYWAY they WANT or see "fit".

Having the ability to 'reason' (out) absolutely ANY and/or EVERY thing, although is GREAT for being able to learn how to create and achieve ANY thing, was also becoming a HUGE DOWNFALL for human beings, themselves, in the days when this was written, as they were "justifying" ALL of their Wrong behaviors, as be "justifiable", without recognizing the downward spiral that they were heading from what was essentially Falsely "reasoned out" Truly Wrong "justifications" and "rationalizations".

As evidenced and proven above here.

This one:
BELIEVES and/or INSISTS that I have NO proof, for my claims.
ASSUMES and/or EXPECTS that I will NOT provide NOR show proof, for my claims. And so,
Therefore, JUMPS into the "justification/rationalization" that the mistreating of ANOTHER human being is PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE and an ALL RIGHT behavior.

This BELIEVING, INSISTING, ASSUMING, and/or EXPECTING is HOW these human beings CONTINUALLY MISTREATED "others" for thousands upon thousands of years. And, it was only a relatively nothing amount of years earlier to when these people misbehaved like this one is SHOWING and REVEALING that there were even human beings who BELIEVED and INSISTED that they could OWN human being "slaves" and "treat" them ANY way that they "saw fit" and had "justified/rationalized" out.

The MISTREATMENT of "others" began from just about the first instance of coming into this 'world', with the continual mistreatment and abuse of "each other", and essentially "themselves", being carried out for thousands upon thousands of years, all depending on what 'culture/country' they were born into and brought up, and lived, in.
Walls of text, but you just restated for the hundreth time your belief that the "One Mind" can shape matter into anything that's imagined, but once again provided no proof.
By the way, millions before you already had this idea but none could prove it so far. (Which you would know if you had any sort of connection to the real world, some vaguest idea about humans and history.)

Less bitching more proof please
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Re: What is philosophy?

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Lacewing wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:15 am at the time when these things have been written. :lol:
We should choose our words wisely.. because one day historians will dig up this forum, searching for the time and place where it all started. Where Age, the great messiah descended from above, and brought eternal peace, harmony and prosperity to humanity, taught people how to shape their destinies.
But the historians will find that there were others on the forum, who did their best to hinder Age in carrying out her divine task.
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Re: What is philosophy?

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Atla wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:12 pm
Lacewing wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:15 am at the time when these things have been written. :lol:
We should choose our words wisely.. because one day historians will dig up this forum, searching for the time and place where it all started. Where Age, the great messiah descended from above, and brought eternal peace, harmony and prosperity to humanity, taught people how to shape their destinies.
But the historians will find that there were others on the forum, who did their best to hinder Age in carrying out her divine task.
Important message for future historians here to learn about the coming of the One True Ken ... Fuck you, now you have to learn about FlapDoodooPants and Atla too!

That'll show 'em. Bastards.
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Re: What is philosophy?

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FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:01 pm
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:12 pm We should choose our words wisely.. because one day historians will dig up this forum, searching for the time and place where it all started. Where Age, the great messiah descended from above, and brought eternal peace, harmony and prosperity to humanity, taught people how to shape their destinies.
But the historians will find that there were others on the forum, who did their best to hinder Age in carrying out her divine task.
Important message for future historians here to learn about the coming of the One True Ken ... Fuck you, now you have to learn about FlapDoodooPants and Atla too!

That'll show 'em. Bastards.
Hopefully this forum will become a comedy show for future generations. (It's often like that, even now.)
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Re: What is philosophy?

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uwot wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:35 pm
Age wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:03 amI have ALLUDED to that if one WANTS to CLAIM that red shift is 'evidence' for expansion, then those same ones will HAVE TO ADMIT that blue shift is 'evidence' for contraction.
Then you don't understand the difference between 100 and 1 000 000 000 000.
LOL

REALLY?

Is this all you can come up with?

So, 100 galaxies are blue shifted, from just ONE position in the Universe, which could infer and be transferred to EVERY position in the Universe. Which would MEAN that the Universe IS CONTRACTING, according to the "logic" that, so called, "scientists" use to make their MADE UP CLAIM that the Universe IS EXPANDING and IS TRUE.

Now, just because 1 000 000 000 000 AND MORE galaxies are red shifted, from ONE position in the Universe, compared to ONLY 100 OR LESS galaxies, which are blue shifted, then according to these "scientists" then this then MEANS, without doubt, without questioning, and IRREFUTABLY TRUE that the Universe IS EXPANDING.

What a JOKE.

Now, OF COURSE, you will come back and say something like: BUT any "good scientist" KNOWS that this CLAIM is NOT without doubt, NOT without questioning, and NOT absolutely true. YET, EVERY time they have their "truth" questioned and doubted, they refer to the book, that is; the literature.

These, so called, "scientists" are MORE RELIGIOUS than the people who BELIEVE in God.

When they are QUESTIONED or CHALLENGED 'we' are referred to THE BOOK, EXACTLY like the OTHER RELIGIOUS FOLK, when they are QUESTIONED or CHALLENGED 'we' are referred BACK to THE BOOK.

The BELIEVERS of the big bang or the expansion behave just like the BELIEVERS of God. That is they have ABSOLUTELY NO evidence NOR proof AT ALL for their BELIEFS, but will INSIST that 'it' exists. But they just have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE AT ALL as to WHERE.

Now, the BELIEVERS of the big bang/expansion THEORY will say that the 'evidence' is red shift YET COMPLETELY and UTTERLY IGNORE the FACT that blue shift is the EXACT OPPOSITE 'evidence' of what red shift is 'evidence' for.

IF red shift is 'evidence' and MEANS expansion, then this MUST MEAN blue shift is 'evidence' for and MEANS contraction. But the BELIEVERS of big bang/expansion will NOT even LOOK AT this FACT, let alone EVER admit it. They will ONLY LOOK AT 'that' what suits and/or fits in with their BELIEFS. Just like the BELIEVERS of God will NOT even LOOK AT, just about ANY thing that is put forward to them. Unless, OF COURSE, it suits and/or fits in with their BELIEFS.

When ALL of 'you', human beings, learn how to START LOOKING AT and SEEING things through the Mind, instead of just LOOKING AT and SEEING things through the brain, then what thee ACTUAL Truth is starts FLOODING IN.
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Re: What is philosophy?

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Atla wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:54 pm
Age wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:11 am
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:19 am
So you will NOT provide NOR show proof for your claims.
I HAVE SHOWN PARTS of the PROOF for my claims.

Have you NOT SEEN THEM YET?

If you have NOT YET SEEN those parts, then there is NO USE in SHOWING you the REST, correct?

By the way, I have even asked you what is the 'it', which you are talking about in relation to PROOF. But you do NOT even have the ABILITY or DECENCY to ANSWER and CLARIFY.
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:19 am
Then your treatment as just another generic nutjob is justified, you have no proof.
LOL

The sun revolves around the earth RIGHT?
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:19 am By the way, millions before you already tried the "you have to see it for yourself" thing too, didn't work either.
Do you have ANY IDEA WHY that did NOT WORK?

In case you have MISSED SOMETHING HERE, then the REASON WHY is BECAUSE the HOW has NOT YET been EXPLAINED.

Do ANY of 'you', human beings, in the days when this is being written, KNOW HOW to SEE 'It' YET?

OF COURSE NOT.

Unless, OF COURSE, there are some who have NOT YET EXPRESSED 'HOW'.

'you', "atla", OBVIOUSLY do NOT KNOW HOW, correct?
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:19 am (Which you would know if you had any sort of connection to the real world, some vaguest idea about humans and history.)
LOL

Human and history is just PLAIN OBVIOUS.

And, 'you', "atla", like the rest of 'you', human beings, throughout history ASSUME way to much, for your own good.

Physical matter continues in its completely, and ONLY, NATURAL way of continually changing in shape and form. Physical matter formed into the shape of the human body. This body evolved to have five senses, which is what is able to observe and/or experiences the Universe, around it. Through these five senses information enters the brain, which this information is gathered and stored as thoughts and memories. The sixth sense, within the human body, is thee Mind, of which there is ONLY One, throughout the WHOLE of the Universe. This Mind is Truly FREE and OPEN and allows matter to be able to do, create, and achieve whatever is imagined. Matter evolved into the shape and form of the human brain, this formation became able to further form language, from, and about, the 'world', the body experiences, around it. Through the sharing of this language of 'things', 'things' become gradually MORE KNOWN, or MORE CLEARER.

Because of language, from the five senses, and the sixth sense, which is Truly OPEN, ALL imaginings can be SHARED with other human bodies of matter.

However, because the Mind allows absolutely ANY thing to be imagined, and the human brain is formed into being able to gather and store absolutely ANY information, sent to it through the five sense, ANY and ALL information gathered and stored can be IMAGINED to be true, right, or correct, when, in fact, it is ACTUALLY False, Wrong, and/or Incorrect, relative to the Universe, Itself.

Now, because human beings, themselves, have the ability to learn, understand, and reason absolutely ANY and EVERY thing, they also have the ability to "reason" 'that', which is ACTUALLY False, Wrong, and Incorrect, as actually being true, right, and/or correct, but ONLY to themselves, ONLY. For example, flat earth, sun revolving around earth, Universe expansion, and/or Universe beginning. And whenever ANY 'thought' is BELIEVED to be true, then NO AMOUNT of what is ACTUALLY True, Right, and Correct can be PRESENTED to sway the 'thought' into CORRECTION. while that 'thought' is BELIEVED TRUE. That is; WHILE the 'thought' is BELIEVED to be true, right, or correct.

And that is a very short summary of human and history, up to when this was being written.

In the future, to those times, adult human beings learned HOW to rid themselves of ALL those BELIEFS and ASSUMPTIONS that they were continually coming up with, which in turn ALLOWED them SO VERY EASILY and SO VERY SIMPLY to just SEE what thee ACTUAL Truth IS, which then helped them TREMENDOUSLY in creating and achieving thee ACTUAL 'world', which they ALL IMAGINED OF and REALLY WANTED to live in.

The speed of this TURN AROUND was EXPONENTIAL as they had CHANGED themselves, through VOLUNTARY ENTHUSIASM, and because the TURN AROUND was in a NATURAL FLOW and BALANCE with "their" NATURAL Being. Although it took hundreds and hundreds of thousands of years to evolve to where they were, when this was written, the TURN AROUND only takes/took (depending on one's perspective) a couple of generations. Again, this VERY QUICK CHANGE is just because of FOLLOWING the NATURAL FLOW of things, instead of 'trying to' reorder NATURE, Itself, to how one species WANTED things to be.
Here is A PRIME and PERFECT EXAMPLE of one 'trying to' "justify" their OBVIOUSLY Wrong behavior and treatment of "others".

This one ACTUALLY BELIEVES that if "another" does NOT JUMP and do what they WANT, then they have the "right" to mis/treat the "other", ANYWAY they WANT or see "fit".

Having the ability to 'reason' (out) absolutely ANY and/or EVERY thing, although is GREAT for being able to learn how to create and achieve ANY thing, was also becoming a HUGE DOWNFALL for human beings, themselves, in the days when this was written, as they were "justifying" ALL of their Wrong behaviors, as be "justifiable", without recognizing the downward spiral that they were heading from what was essentially Falsely "reasoned out" Truly Wrong "justifications" and "rationalizations".

As evidenced and proven above here.

This one:
BELIEVES and/or INSISTS that I have NO proof, for my claims.
ASSUMES and/or EXPECTS that I will NOT provide NOR show proof, for my claims. And so,
Therefore, JUMPS into the "justification/rationalization" that the mistreating of ANOTHER human being is PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE and an ALL RIGHT behavior.

This BELIEVING, INSISTING, ASSUMING, and/or EXPECTING is HOW these human beings CONTINUALLY MISTREATED "others" for thousands upon thousands of years. And, it was only a relatively nothing amount of years earlier to when these people misbehaved like this one is SHOWING and REVEALING that there were even human beings who BELIEVED and INSISTED that they could OWN human being "slaves" and "treat" them ANY way that they "saw fit" and had "justified/rationalized" out.

The MISTREATMENT of "others" began from just about the first instance of coming into this 'world', with the continual mistreatment and abuse of "each other", and essentially "themselves", being carried out for thousands upon thousands of years, all depending on what 'culture/country' they were born into and brought up, and lived, in.
Walls of text, but you just restated for the hundreth time your belief that the "One Mind" can shape matter into anything that's imagined, but once again provided no proof.
AND, for ABOUT the hundreth time I will INFORM YOU that I do NOT believe ANY thing like this. I INFORMED YOU of this hundreds of times BECAUSE you keep CLAIMING that I have BELIEFS hundreds of times.

Also, LOL, you just CLAIMED that I have "restated for the hundreth time that the One Mind can shape matter into anything that is imagined". But you could NOT prove this CLAIM at all BECAUSE you could NOT find just ONE TIME where I have EVER stated this just ONCE BEFORE. So, the rest of what you said is moot.
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:54 pm By the way, millions before you already had this idea but none could prove it so far. (Which you would know if you had any sort of connection to the real world, some vaguest idea about humans and history.)
AND, if you were even SLIGHTLY AWARE 'I' am USING and MANIPULATING 'you' to REACT the way 'you' ARE. To SHOW HOW LOOKING AT and SEEING things the way they did, 'back then', is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS and EXTREMELY DEBILITATING, and WHY that way of LOOKING and SEEING is best NEVER repeated EVER AGAIN.

Oh, and by the way, I ALREADY KNOW that "others" have said what I am saying, and the reason WHY I say 'it' more or less in the EXACT SAME is so that people like 'you', "atla", and "others" in this forum, will say and behave more or less the EXACT SAME way as BILLIONS before 'you' have and did.
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:54 pm Less bitching more proof please
More proof in regards to 'what', EXACTLY?

You have NOT YET proved ONE of your CLAIMS here in this thread. In fact you REFUSE to even LOOK AT and DISCUSS them, after you just say them and write them down. And this is BECAUSE you can NOT prove them.
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Re: What is philosophy?

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Atla wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:12 pm
Lacewing wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:15 am at the time when these things have been written. :lol:
We should choose our words wisely.. because one day historians will dig up this forum, searching for the time and place where it all started. Where Age, the great messiah descended from above, and brought eternal peace, harmony and prosperity to humanity, taught people how to shape their destinies.
But the historians will find that there were others on the forum, who did their best to hinder Age in carrying out her divine task.
I REALLY WISH 'you', people, would STOP putting a capital 'A' on "age".

"age" is relatively NOTHING in the scheme of things.

"age" is an anonymous being, being USED, so ABSOLUTELY EVERY thing you are PRESUMING and PROJECTING here "lacewing" is just PLAIN WRONG.

And, the reason WHY you are NOT LISTENING and NOT HEARING what is being said, and written down in PLAIN WORDS for you, is BECAUSE of those preexisting BELIEFS and ASSUMPTIONS, which are OBVIOUS, and which OBVIOUSLY came from your OWN past experiences.

I suggest LOOKING AT the words BEFORE you, from thee Mind and NOT from that brain. That way you will STOP ASSUMING what you OBVIOUSLY ARE here, and START SEEING what is ACTUALLY being SAID and MEANT.

By the way, are you 'trying to' help or hinder here?
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Re: What is philosophy?

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FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:01 pm
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:12 pm
Lacewing wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:15 am at the time when these things have been written. :lol:
We should choose our words wisely.. because one day historians will dig up this forum, searching for the time and place where it all started. Where Age, the great messiah descended from above, and brought eternal peace, harmony and prosperity to humanity, taught people how to shape their destinies.
But the historians will find that there were others on the forum, who did their best to hinder Age in carrying out her divine task.
Important message for future historians here to learn about the coming of the One True Ken ... Fuck you, now you have to learn about FlapDoodooPants and Atla too!

That'll show 'em. Bastards.
Just out of curiosity, do you happen to even KNOW what the phrase and term 'One True Ken', which you proposed here, can ACTUALLY refer to?

If yes, then what?
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Re: What is philosophy?

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Lacewing wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:36 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:01 pm
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:12 pm We should choose our words wisely.. because one day historians will dig up this forum, searching for the time and place where it all started. Where Age, the great messiah descended from above, and brought eternal peace, harmony and prosperity to humanity, taught people how to shape their destinies.
But the historians will find that there were others on the forum, who did their best to hinder Age in carrying out her divine task.
Important message for future historians here to learn about the coming of the One True Ken ... Fuck you, now you have to learn about FlapDoodooPants and Atla too!

That'll show 'em. Bastards.
Hopefully this forum will become a comedy show for future generations. (It's often like that, even now.)
You do NOT have to worry about that. They SEE it for what it REALLY IS.

Imagine if computers and the internet existed when just one person was trying to inform 'the others/the BELIEVERS' that the sun really does NOT revolve around the earth. So, you now had the ability to LOOK BACK over their writings and their back and forth conversations, and just how funny the BELIEVERS would sound like to 'you', the peoples of these days, when this is being written down, for ALL to see.

Imagine the "rationalizations" and the "excuses" those BELIEVERS would be MAKING UP while 'trying to' their hardest to "justify" their BELIEFS and ASSUMPTIONS. You might even be rolling around on the floor now, with laughter, SEEING just how some people TRIED to "justify" their currently HELD ONTO BELIEFS.
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Re: What is philosophy?

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Age wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:02 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:01 pm
Atla wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:12 pm
We should choose our words wisely.. because one day historians will dig up this forum, searching for the time and place where it all started. Where Age, the great messiah descended from above, and brought eternal peace, harmony and prosperity to humanity, taught people how to shape their destinies.
But the historians will find that there were others on the forum, who did their best to hinder Age in carrying out her divine task.
Important message for future historians here to learn about the coming of the One True Ken ... Fuck you, now you have to learn about FlapDoodooPants and Atla too!

That'll show 'em. Bastards.
Just out of curiosity, do you happen to even KNOW what the phrase and term 'One True Ken', which you proposed here, can ACTUALLY refer to?

If yes, then what?
I'm afraid he's just one among the many many Kens out there, but he couldn't handle being pedestrian so he fooled himself he was very very important instead. I've seen about 12 delusional little men on this one insignificant forum announcing they are they are the greatest philosopher of all time and have all the answers, they're all the One True Whateverhisnamewas, and they are all pretty much the same. They often compare themselves to Copernicus, Galileo, Newton and Einstein much as you just did by the way.

Does that answer your CLarIFYinG qUEStioN?
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Re: What is philosophy?

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Age wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:10 pm Imagine the "rationalizations" and the "excuses" those BELIEVERS would be MAKING UP while 'trying to' their hardest to "justify" their BELIEFS and ASSUMPTIONS.
Again, sounds like yourself which you try to project onto others.
Age wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:10 pmYou might even be rolling around on the floor now, with laughter, SEEING just how some people TRIED to "justify" their currently HELD ONTO BELIEFS.
Yes, I am. :lol:
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Re: What is philosophy?

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FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:48 pm
Age wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:02 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:01 pm
Important message for future historians here to learn about the coming of the One True Ken ... Fuck you, now you have to learn about FlapDoodooPants and Atla too!

That'll show 'em. Bastards.
Just out of curiosity, do you happen to even KNOW what the phrase and term 'One True Ken', which you proposed here, can ACTUALLY refer to?

If yes, then what?
I'm afraid he's just one among the many many Kens out there, but he couldn't handle being pedestrian so he fooled himself he was very very important instead. I've seen about 12 delusional little men on this one insignificant forum announcing they are they are the greatest philosopher of all time and have all the answers, they're all the One True Whateverhisnamewas, and they are all pretty much the same. They often compare themselves to Copernicus, Galileo, Newton and Einstein much as you just did by the way.

Does that answer your CLarIFYinG qUEStioN?
That answered the question, from your perspective of things, only. So, yes.

But, by the way, the "ken", which you are directly referring to here, NEVER EVER thought what you ALLEGE and PRESUME here. Just so that 'you' are AWARE.

Also, did that "ken" EVER announce absolutely ANY thing like that it was "the greatest philosopher of all time and had all the answers" or that it was "the One True (whatever)"?

What do you mean by "they are all pretty much the same"? "pretty much the same" 'what', EXACTLY?

Did that "ken" EVER compare itself to ANY other human being?

Now, you CLAIM that i have compared "my self" to those four named "human beings" "much as those "others" did. So, will you PROVIDE some ACTUAL proof to this CLAIM of yours here?
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Re: What is philosophy?

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Lacewing wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:03 pm
Age wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:10 pm Imagine the "rationalizations" and the "excuses" those BELIEVERS would be MAKING UP while 'trying to' their hardest to "justify" their BELIEFS and ASSUMPTIONS.
Again, sounds like yourself which you try to project onto others.
AGAIN, you SAY things and MAKE CLAIMS, which could refer to just about ANY thing.

What are you referring to, EXACTLY?

I do NOT BELIEVE ANY thing so HOW could what I said there "sound like me"?

Surely, this is NOT what you are talking about and referring to, is it?

One HAS TO FIRST BELIEVE some thing is true, to then be able to make "rationalizations" and "excuses" to 'try to' "justify" their BELIEFS. Therefore, for those who do NOT have BELIEFS, then they do NOT HAVE TO 'rationalize' NOR 'justify' ANY thing.

Even 'you' can UNDERSTAND this, correct?
Lacewing wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:03 pm
Age wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:10 pmYou might even be rolling around on the floor now, with laughter, SEEING just how some people TRIED to "justify" their currently HELD ONTO BELIEFS.
Yes, I am. :lol:
So, you now KNOW how future people WILL be feeling when they read these EXACT SAME WORDS of yours, correct?

By the way, we are still WAITING to SEE your answer to the clarifying question: Do you think you are 'trying to' help or hinder here?
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Re: What is philosophy?

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Age wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:04 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:48 pm
Age wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:02 pm

Just out of curiosity, do you happen to even KNOW what the phrase and term 'One True Ken', which you proposed here, can ACTUALLY refer to?

If yes, then what?
I'm afraid he's just one among the many many Kens out there, but he couldn't handle being pedestrian so he fooled himself he was very very important instead. I've seen about 12 delusional little men on this one insignificant forum announcing they are they are the greatest philosopher of all time and have all the answers, they're all the One True Whateverhisnamewas, and they are all pretty much the same. They often compare themselves to Copernicus, Galileo, Newton and Einstein much as you just did by the way.

Does that answer your CLarIFYinG qUEStioN?
That answered the question, from your perspective of things, only. So, yes.

But, by the way, the "ken", which you are directly referring to here, NEVER EVER thought what you ALLEGE and PRESUME here. Just so that 'you' are AWARE.

Also, did that "ken" EVER announce absolutely ANY thing like that it was "the greatest philosopher of all time and had all the answers" or that it was "the One True (whatever)"?

What do you mean by "they are all pretty much the same"? "pretty much the same" 'what', EXACTLY?

Did that "ken" EVER compare itself to ANY other human being?

Now, you CLAIM that i have compared "my self" to those four named "human beings" "much as those "others" did. So, will you PROVIDE some ACTUAL proof to this CLAIM of yours here?
Just up the page there you did a whole routine comparing yourself to the only guy who knows the sun doesn't orbit the earth. That's you comparing yourself to Copernicus.

You've got plenty of form for telling us that "future generations" will wish to review this site to see how your fabulous wisdom emerged, so don't bullshit me pretending to be humble, you are massively egotistical.
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