Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:25 pm
It's the logical upshot of YOUR view.
Then show this per a logical argument. Just stating it doesn't cut it.
It's been rationally demonstrated to you twice now, at least.
No, it hasn't.
You wrote, for example:
"It's a logical proof that you either have to affirm or deny the existence of dynamics. It seems to me that at the moment, you are attempting to avoid doing either;"
If I'm avoiding doing either, then I'm certainly not doing BOTH! lol
I'm only stating a contradiction if I'm doing or necessarily implying both.
You also said:
Either things exist or do not exist. There's no middle state. That's axiomatic, logical and inevitable.
You claim that everything that exists is also physical, do you not?
Therefore, it cannot be the case that you think dynamics, assuming they exist, are anything other than physical. (Or you have to think dynamics simply do not exist (but that latter is so implausible that I hesitate to attribute it to you at all, so I shall not.)
That's a bunch of conditionals a la "IF I say this, IF I say that" etc.
That's certainly not a demonstration that the view I stated IS or IMPLIES a contradiction.
You also said:
Either you affirm the existence of dynamics, or you do not.
Claiming that I said or implied BOTH (so as to be forwarding something contradictory) makes no sense in the context of you saying either I (should) do one or the other, but I haven't yet.
So where is the contradiction in the view that I stated?
What you'd need to do is either quote something I said that's a contradiction, or quote something I said and then from there, logically show how that quotation necessarily entails a contradiction.
For example, you could quote something like "I'm a physicalist and not a determinist."
And then try to argue for how that logically entails some statement of both P and not-P.
By the way, it shouldn't be this ridiculously difficult to explain this to you. It's turned out that anything at all that I try to explain to you is like pulling teeth . . . with a Q-Tip.