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RCSaunders wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:27 am I don't have answers for anyone else.
Okay, I believe that.
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RCSaunders wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:46 am... only they know why they made the choice they did.
Not always.

Clever, ostensible reasons to answer why, are not particularly rare.

They're like what I gather Facebook must be like ... putting the best foot forward to keep up appearances of control, or per the thread topic, appearances of what looks most favourable in the eyes of the Law. :)

People fib long enough and often enough, (career criminals and habitual liars,) and the truth becomes unrecognizable. The truth becomes whatever quenches desires.
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Walker wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:20 pm
RCSaunders wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:46 am... only they know why they made the choice they did.
Not always.
Unless you can read minds, you can never know why any individual makes any specific choice unless they tell you and are telling you the truth.

Of course there a many broad generalities about how and why people choose and do the things they do. It is always dangerous, however, to apply those generalities to individuals--which is always a from of prejudice.
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The attacker discussed in this link commits a criminal act of harming another, and then claims self-defense.

The question is, what is the attacker defending.

The other question is, under those circumstances, why would someone choose such an action and justification?


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RCSaunders wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:27 pm
Walker wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:20 pm
RCSaunders wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:46 am... only they know why they made the choice they did.
Not always.
Unless you can read minds, you can never know why any individual makes any specific choice unless they tell you and are telling you the truth.

Of course there a many broad generalities about how and why people choose and do the things they do. It is always dangerous, however, to apply those generalities to individuals--which is always a from of prejudice.
- For applicable consistency, change is defined as action.
- Action is observable, physical movement.
- Thought is also physical movement.
- Thought is also action, and also detectable.
- However, the brain is the only instrument known to man that can detect the physical movement of thought.
- Also, static makes speech transmission of truth unreliable.

- Therefore, because the body answers for the body, applicable consistency requires that action is specifically defined as observable body movement and not unobservable thought, since unobservable thought may as well be speculation undistinguishable from unicorn fantasies, and can’t be called choice.
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Walker wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:40 pm
RCSaunders wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:27 pm
Walker wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:20 pm
Not always.
Unless you can read minds, you can never know why any individual makes any specific choice unless they tell you and are telling you the truth.

Of course there a many broad generalities about how and why people choose and do the things they do. It is always dangerous, however, to apply those generalities to individuals--which is always a from of prejudice.
- For applicable consistency, change is defined as action.
- Action is observable, physical movement.
- Thought is also physical movement.
If you really believe that, would you mind explaining exactly what you think that physical movement is and how it is thought, and how you know it. You don't have to, of course. If you would prefer not to, I'll just ignore it. No worries.
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